AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Kansas Basketball.
Soklous
Posts: 846
Joined: Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:32 pm

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Post by Soklous »

#1 Defense. Ranking has validated what we have been viewing. Enjoy the rest of yours this season. Rock Chalk.


https://kenpom.com/index.php?s=RankAdjDE
I am, I said.
User avatar
PhDhawk
Posts: 10076
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:03 am

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Post by PhDhawk »

I don't get the rankings of almost any team between 7-20.
I only came to kick some ass...

Rock the fucking house and kick some ass.
User avatar
CrimsonNBlue
Posts: 17405
Joined: Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:30 am

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Post by CrimsonNBlue »

I know it's the tournament, but I feel about as confident as ever in our road to Final Four weekend.
User avatar
NewtonHawk11
Posts: 12826
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:48 am
Location: Kansas

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Post by NewtonHawk11 »

CrimsonNBlue wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:08 am I know it's the tournament, but I feel about as confident as ever in our road to Final Four weekend.
People gonna hate this comparison, but this years team is very similar to Virginia last year. Defense is top notch, offense can be sketchy. But defense is going to carry the team.
“I don’t remember anything he said, but it was a very memorable speech.” Julian Wright on a speech Michael Jordan gave to a group he was in

"But don’t ever get it twisted, it’s Rock Chalk forever." MG
User avatar
pdub
Site Admin
Posts: 35386
Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:07 am

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Post by pdub »

Kansas 1st still. 2nd SOS.
13th in Adjusted O.
1st in Adjusted D.
User avatar
PortlandHawk
Posts: 468
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:29 pm

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Post by PortlandHawk »

Kansas 1st.

10th on Offense
1st on Defense
User avatar
sdoyel
Posts: 12426
Joined: Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:18 am
Location: Dallas, TX

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Post by sdoyel »

And a wide gap between KU and #2.
"The real issue with covid: its not killing enough people." - randylahey

GTS Champ 2008
GTS Champ 2020*

“We good?” - Bill Self

RIP jhawk73

🇺🇦
Deleted User 141

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Post by Deleted User 141 »

PortlandHawk wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2020 10:39 pm Kansas 1st.

10th on Offense
1st on Defense

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ncaa.c ... have%3famp
Deleted User 295

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Post by Deleted User 295 »

Top 10 in both is a magic indicator for national champions iirc.
Deleted User 141

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Post by Deleted User 141 »

Don’t know, that article didn’t point to it, and would seem it might have thought of that scenario.

Just happy to be extrapolating data this way this year as opposed to last year. That one year without real final four aspirations was too many.
User avatar
TDub
Contributor
Posts: 15337
Joined: Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:32 am

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Post by TDub »

Gqcolorado wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:17 am Don’t know, that article didn’t point to it, and would seem it might have thought of that scenario.

Just happy to be extrapolating data this way this year as opposed to last year. That one year without real final four aspirations was too many.
Indeed. We are a spoiled bunch. Love it. Now we need another title.
Just Ledoux it
User avatar
PhDhawk
Posts: 10076
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:03 am

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Post by PhDhawk »

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:11 am Top 10 in both is a magic indicator for national champions iirc.
Dook and SDSU are both also top 10 in both categories.
I only came to kick some ass...

Rock the fucking house and kick some ass.
Deleted User 295

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Post by Deleted User 295 »

PhDhawk wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:31 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:11 am Top 10 in both is a magic indicator for national champions iirc.
Dook and SDSU are both also top 10 in both categories.
And good chance the national champion is 1 of those 3 teams.
User avatar
CrimsonNBlue
Posts: 17405
Joined: Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:30 am

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Post by CrimsonNBlue »

I think the true statement (now) is that no national champ has been outside of Top 20 in both categories.
Deleted User 295

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Post by Deleted User 295 »

CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:44 pm I think the true statement (now) is that no national champ has been outside of Top 20 in both categories.
Sounds about right.

I was thinking it was something like 70% of the national champs in the last 20 or so years were top 10 in both.
NDballer13
Posts: 1734
Joined: Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:08 am

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Post by NDballer13 »

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:56 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:44 pm I think the true statement (now) is that no national champ has been outside of Top 20 in both categories.
Sounds about right.

I was thinking it was something like 70% of the national champs in the last 20 or so years were top 10 in both.
Syracuse in 03 and UConn in 11 are the only two team to win with both outside the top 10. Most champions finished the year Top 5 in both, let alone Top 10.

UConn in 14, Florida's second title, and Carolina in 05 were the only other winners with only one of their rankings in the Top 10.
User avatar
PhDhawk
Posts: 10076
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:03 am

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Post by PhDhawk »

NDballer13 wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:12 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:56 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:44 pm I think the true statement (now) is that no national champ has been outside of Top 20 in both categories.
Sounds about right.

I was thinking it was something like 70% of the national champs in the last 20 or so years were top 10 in both.
Syracuse in 03 and UConn in 11 are the only two team to win with both outside the top 10. Most champions finished the year Top 5 in both, let alone Top 10.

UConn in 14, Florida's second title, and Carolina in 05 were the only other winners with only one of their rankings in the Top 10.
What I'd be more interested in seeing is where they were ranked just prior to the start of the tourney.

The thing about that stat is, if you win it all, you get a pretty big bump in Kenpom, because you just won 4-5 games against elite teams. In a way, it's a bit of self-fulfilling prophecy, in that a team that just beat two top 5 teams (final four games), a top 10 team (E8) and a top 25 team (S16) is going to surge up the rankings.
I only came to kick some ass...

Rock the fucking house and kick some ass.
User avatar
CrimsonNBlue
Posts: 17405
Joined: Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:30 am

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Post by CrimsonNBlue »

Exactly. But, that would require a $19.99 KenPom subscription, and I'm not about to do that when I can just get the info from Doyel for free on here.
User avatar
ousdahl
Posts: 29999
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:55 am

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Post by ousdahl »

sooo number 1 next week?
User avatar
CrimsonNBlue
Posts: 17405
Joined: Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:30 am

Re: AP/Kenpom 2019-20

Post by CrimsonNBlue »

Would be insane not to be.

Better resume and playing better than anyone.
Post Reply