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Certainly not Tom Brady.

They’d be better off with Marcus Mariota
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Bill has been good at drafting QB's.
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Bill Belichick drafted QB's

1992 - 12th Round - Keithen McCant
1995 - 3rd Round - Eric Zeier
2000 - 6th Round - Tom Brady
2002 - 4th Round - Rohan Davey
2003 - 6th Round - Kliff Kingsbury
2005 - 7th Round - Matt Cassel
2008 - 3rd Round - Kevin O'Connell
2010 - 7th Round - Zac Robinson
2011 - 3rd Round - Ryan Mallett
2014 - 2nd Round - Jimmy Garoppolo
2016 - 3rd Round - Jacoby Brissett
2018 - 7th Round - Danny Etling
2019 - 4th Round - Jarrett Stidham

QB's who started for Bill Belichick

Matt Cassel (10-5 with NE, 26-40 after)
**Fleeced KC for a 2nd Round Pick (Patrick Chung)
*****KC Gives Cassel $46M over 4 years

Brian Hoyer (0-0 with NE, 16-22 after)
**Left as FA
*****Will be paid $30M over 8 seasons by other teams, has been paid $4.3M by NE over 5 seasons

Ryan Mallett (0-0 with NE, 3-5 after)
**Traded for 6th Round pick, further trades led to 2 picks.
***WR Devin Lucien, seventh round, 2016
***DE Deatrich Wise JR, fourth round, 2017
*****Houston pays Mallett $3.7M over 2 years

Jimmy Garappolo (2-0 with NE, 19-5 after)
*QB Rating 7 points lower after NE.
**Traded for 2nd Round pick, further trades let to 7 picks .
***LB Christian Sam, sixth round, 2018
***RB Damien Harris, third round, 2019
***CB Duke Dawson, second round, 2018
***CB Joejuan Williams, second round, 2019
***OT Yodny Cajuste, third round, 2019
***QB Jarrett Stidham, fourth round, 2019
***Chicago’s fourth-round pick, 2020
*****San Francisco signs Garrappolo to a 5 year, $137.5M contract

Jacoby Brissett (1-1 with NE, 11-19 after)
**Traded for WR Phillip Dorsett
*****Indianapolis pays Brissett $32M over 4 seasons......and counting....
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That my friend was good stuff right there. I was thinking to myself he got lucky with Brady but who the freak else@#$#@

I think this off season QB carousel is the craziest thing ever. OH yeah please please Brady go to some other team and have both him and NE miss the playoffs. It would be the greatest year ever, lol

And the CHIEFS win another one.
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Local guy, Isiah Simmons made himself (or cemented) a lot of money this weekend.
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Please don’t go to Titans Tom Brady.
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Broncos are going to sign Bouye, from the Jags. That all but ends the CHJr era in Denver. I see that him and Mathieu had some running exchanges on Twitter suggesting that he come to the Chiefs.
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Yeah, it seems fairly obvious he's going elsewhere. You put him on one slot wr and Mathieu on another. Thornhill over the top of them.

Good luck teams.

Funny thing I saw yesterday.

They did a pro and con of Tom Brady going to the Raiders.

Pro - Gruden does well with older QBs. Good weapons around on team.
Cons - Bad defense. Go against Mahomes and KC twice every year.

Never has my favorite team been a con of playing for a division rival. Gonna be a fun 15 years as Mahomes just tears up the league.
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Are we getting to caught up with the potential of having Chris play closer to Lawrence and probably more important do the Chiefs want to pay what I'm assuming Harris will want on the open market for a guy who is on the downside of his career and really only viable in the slot?
Breeland = gone
Fuller = gone
Safeties you are good but with only Ward (who is due to an extension next year) and Felton that is some big holes to fill in the DB room.
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CB market is going to be absurdly priced. Good luck.
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Yeah. He's 31. Already had his bigger contract. Earned $36M to this point so far.

He'd probably take a discount to come to a top team. I think winning is more a focus for him then money is. While money is big for all, so is winning.
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NewtonHawk11 wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:04 pm Yeah. He's 31. Already had his bigger contract. Earned $36M to this point so far.

He'd probably take a discount to come to a top team. I think winning is more a focus for him then money is. While money is big for all, so is winning.
Harris? No. He's gonna get paid. He took 'hometown discount' on last deal, actually held out until Elway simply 'gave' him $3 million extra this year.
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Spotrac does a cool thing where they report a Market Value compared on other salaries and whatnot.

They predict a 3 years at $33M total.

He's one of the oldest high quality CBs on the market.
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Have seen multiple reports of draft being in May at earliest and it will not happen in Vegas anymore.
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Was hoping they would do the draft the old fashioned way, 3 rounds day one, the rest day two. no fans.
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New CBA passed. 51% said yes.

2 additional playoff teams. 7 from each side. 1 seed gets a bye.

Additional game. Games now at 17. 3 preseason games.

Increase in player minimum salaries.

Increase in player revenue share.

This is good for 10 years.
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I thought I’d be happy to be able to turn on ESPN and hear about the CBA going through (I think it’s dumb it passed, but that’s a different argument), as it’s new news and something different....

....what I didn’t realize is how pissed it would actually make me to listen to this shit right now. Fuck, I can’t even find joy in sports at the moment.
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Main point of this for Chiefs fans is that the salary cap is likely going to increase significantly.

The Chiefs can pay Mahomes and Jones At the same time. If they don’t, it’s because they don’t wan to.
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NewtonHawk11 wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 10:12 am Main point of this for Chiefs fans is that the salary cap is likely going to increase significantly.

The Chiefs can pay Mahomes and Jones At the same time. If they don’t, it’s because they don’t wan to.
And Pat Mahomes will set every career passing record
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