Kansas Crimson

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:29 pm Don't understand that concept. At all.

(It's not at all meant to ever leave the roads between Whole Foods and Orange Theory.)

Ok, Jeep Gladiator Mojave.

I am in!

wife wants a wrangler (if we were to get something new)...can’t convince her the gladiator is more versatile

Ordered my Mojave today. This will be the 17th Jeep I have owned.

May well be my last Jeep build as well.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:10 am

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:29 pm Don't understand that concept. At all.

(It's not at all meant to ever leave the roads between Whole Foods and Orange Theory.)

Strong post.

the hummer electric strikes me as an attempt to appeal to the demographic that might like the Tesla truck but still holds a loyalty to Detroit brands? Or something. If there's even a demographic there. (seriously, hummer?)

but yeah, in general I'm ready to be done with gasoline, and look forward to a new era of vehicles.

I heard an interesting thought: the driver who never gets behind the wheel of a gas-powered vehicle has already been born.

or heck, depending on how long my truck lasts me, and assuming the technology continues to progress, my truck might be the last gas vehicle I own. and as much as I'd like to do away with gas, I sure as shit am gonna miss a manual transmission.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:11 am my truck might be the last gas vehicle I own.

Yea, diesel is better for most things anyway.

This not about automobiles, but clean energy.

Windmill turbines filling up landfill space....no easy way (economical) to recycle them....just about every other piece, yes, but not turbine....

....figuring this out is gonna get some people rich.

same is true for batteries for electric cars

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:29 pm Don't understand that concept. At all.

And here's a concept I don't understand, spending ~$100k on these:

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:30 am

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:29 pm Don't understand that concept. At all.

And here's a concept I don't understand, spending ~$100k on these:

No shit.

Without throwaway type money, I don't understand the concept of spending 100k on a vehicle period.

But even if I had throwaway money to spend on a car - those are fucking hideous. It's like a vanity purchase to be able to say you have so much money that you can spend it on something that fucking hideous.

Anyone remember the "Real American Hero" beer commercials? They did one that was very short-lived on SUV-guy. The line I remember is "The only off roading that thing will ever do is if you accidentally back over your wife's flower bed." I think it was short-lived cuz it hit too close to home for their customers.

Seems to fit here.

jhawks99 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:38 am Anyone remember the "Real American Hero" beer commercials? They did one that was very short-lived on SUV-guy. The line I remember is "The only off roading that thing will ever do is if you accidentally back over your wife's flower bed." I think it was short-lived cuz it hit too close to home for their customers.

Seems to fit here.

But even so! Disregard that >95% of buyers of luxury SUVs will never go off-road. Set that aside.

I just don't understand, if you're shopping in this aisle, how you end up with those squished abominations. It's like you want some (but not very much) of the good things about four-dour performance "coupes" (that aren't coupes), like the BMW M6 Gran Coupe, or Audi A7, with some (but not very much) of the good things about true luxury SUVs (too many examples to count), but with the lipstick-on-a-pig version of this aesthetic:

Ugliest car ever. I see them around here every once in a while.

I had a Chevy Blazer for a while. Until it got too expensive to maintain. Perfect size for me. I could drive it around town and park it anywhere a car would fit. Much better than my Dad's 85 Suburban. Geebus that thing was huge.

If I had the cash I wouldn't mind having luxury SUV about that same size.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:35 am But even if I had throwaway money to spend on a car - those are fucking hideous. It's like a vanity purchase to be able to say you have so much money that you can spend it on something that fucking hideous.

Definitely a weird flex.

I’m guessing the luxury SUVs are for folks who, for instance in CO markets, want the high clearance that really is nice for traveling in winter weather.

They could just get a Ford Explorer or something, but that’s just not bougie enough.

I've had 2 expeditions, but I'd never buy a brand new 1 for all that $

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:35 pm I've had 2 expeditions, but I'd never buy a brand new 1 for all that $

It is pretty goddamned crazy what some things cost these days. You can be into a pretty normal pickup (so, like, not Denali or what have you) for $50k before batting an eye.