Kansas Crimson

Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:19 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:14 am Yes. Do you think kids are removed from homes and an abuse/neglect case is opened because a kid fell off a trampoline?

I've represented people in Tyreek's position in these courts in KC for the better part of a decade.

I think you’re being disingenuous with your answer.

I haven’t followed every move of this case, but my understanding is that we do not know for a fact that this broken arm is the direct result of the actions of someone else.

If you have hard evidence to the contrary, please provide. I’m genuinely interested.

And, yes, I know from personal experience that Child Services can and will overreact based on acquisitions alone.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:24 am We absolutely do. We know it was by another person because the State removed the child from the home and mom and dad are now in family court (presumably) trying to get their kid back.

We also know that the DA only criminally investigated mom and dad.

There is no other person involved. There is no trampoline.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:59 am OK, maybe mom and dad are going to court every month for fun and to learn about the family court system. Maybe the kid wanted a vacation out of the home.

pdub wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:58 am We don't know what happened but I think we can very much infer enough that it wasn't a trampoline.
It was one of the two people.
If you assume it's Hill, well, that's on you, because you don't have the information to do so.

Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:01 pm

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:59 am OK, maybe mom and dad are going to court every month for fun and to learn about the family court system. Maybe the kid wanted a vacation out of the home.

Were you in the room?
Do you have video evidence?
Do you have audio evidence?
Do you have reliable eye witness testimony?

Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:07 pm Also, why are we talking about trampolines?

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:09 pm

Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:07 pm Also, why are we talking about trampolines?

You brought up the question that another person didn't cause (or contribute to cause) the broken arm, which is factually untrue at this point.

Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:13 pm

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:09 pm

Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:07 pm Also, why are we talking about trampolines?

You brought up the question that another person didn't cause (or contribute to cause) the broken arm, which is factually untrue at this point.

What you keep refusing to do (very Trumpian btw) is admit that we, in fact, don’t know the facts of this case.

That’s my single point here.

pdub wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:12 pm I don't think it is implausible.
I think it very well be shitty.
And if you're gonna be a dick ( your first comment ) then I will too - ya'all sure are some shitty lawyers with all this presumption.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:18 pm

pdub wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:12 pm I don't think it is implausible.
I think it very well be shitty.
And if you're gonna be a dick ( your first comment ) then I will too - ya'all sure are some shitty lawyers with all this presumption.

I'm just being honest - you seem to tie yourself up in knots to make yourself feel better about supporting institutions that take advantage of kids/young adults (and predominantly black/poor ones at that), or about teams that employ people responsible for their kid's broken arm, where it suits your rooting interest.

I'm aware that there's something very hypocritical about me buying KU tickets despite my feelings about amateurism, or Chiefs tickets despite them employing Hill. But at least I'm honest about it, with myself and otherwise.

Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:18 pm Ok, how was the arm broken?