Kansas Crimson

pdub wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:56 am Wichita State top 10.
Blech.

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:50 pm we're still good at scheduling.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:02 pm I don't think anyone said the schedule was not strong, just boring. Which, especially the AFH slate, it is.

Playing decent mid-major teams is good for SOS equation, but still boring for fans.

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:13 pm

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:02 pm I don't think anyone said the schedule was not strong, just boring. Which, especially the AFH slate, it is.

Playing decent mid-major teams is good for SOS equation, but still boring for fans.

Don't think many high major teams want to come to AFH. Only time is for Big12/SEC thing and that's really about it.

The series with Kentucky/Michigan State/Arizona(When they were good) coming to AFH and then KU going back to that place the next year is gone. There's enough tournaments, classics, challenges that more than make up for an exciting home slate.

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:27 pm Being from the area and watching them, they're a good team. Bunch of young guys and they go deep in their bench. They go about 9-10 deep and no one really plays above 30 minutes. Never been Marshall's deal. He loves to play with depth on his team, compared to that of Bill who likes to go about 7-8 deep.

Only loss was to West Va that was close until the last parts of 2nd half. Front court has some good players, but their guards are the ones that make them go and they have a few pretty good ones. They'll be a 6 seed or so in the tournament and have some success there.

Now I will say this, and it's not popular here, but Marshall isn't that bad of a guy. Met him a few times. Remembers my name. Always kind, respectful, listens well and does a good job in big settings with lots of people. He's had some dumb comments to media and that will happen with everyone. But his wife and family are much different. His wife is a hothead and her kids take after that, big time. He's intense, but has a much more level temperament then his wife and kids do.

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:11 pm

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:27 pm Being from the area and watching them, they're a good team. Bunch of young guys and they go deep in their bench. They go about 9-10 deep and no one really plays above 30 minutes. Never been Marshall's deal. He loves to play with depth on his team, compared to that of Bill who likes to go about 7-8 deep.

Only loss was to West Va that was close until the last parts of 2nd half. Front court has some good players, but their guards are the ones that make them go and they have a few pretty good ones. They'll be a 6 seed or so in the tournament and have some success there.

Now I will say this, and it's not popular here, but Marshall isn't that bad of a guy. Met him a few times. Remembers my name. Always kind, respectful, listens well and does a good job in big settings with lots of people. He's had some dumb comments to media and that will happen with everyone. But his wife and family are much different. His wife is a hothead and her kids take after that, big time. He's intense, but has a much more level temperament then his wife and kids do.

I will never forgive him for calling out KU back in 2012 for refusing to give WSU a home-and-home deal. His whole “KU is scared of us” schtick pissed me off. The gym I was a member of at the time gave out free “Play Angry” themed T-shirts and the owner got offended when I immediately tossed mine in the trash. I told him I don’t support mid-major teams and he about blew an O-ring trying to convince me that WSU was NOT a mid-major.

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:21 pm

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:11 pm

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:27 pm Being from the area and watching them, they're a good team. Bunch of young guys and they go deep in their bench. They go about 9-10 deep and no one really plays above 30 minutes. Never been Marshall's deal. He loves to play with depth on his team, compared to that of Bill who likes to go about 7-8 deep.

Only loss was to West Va that was close until the last parts of 2nd half. Front court has some good players, but their guards are the ones that make them go and they have a few pretty good ones. They'll be a 6 seed or so in the tournament and have some success there.

Now I will say this, and it's not popular here, but Marshall isn't that bad of a guy. Met him a few times. Remembers my name. Always kind, respectful, listens well and does a good job in big settings with lots of people. He's had some dumb comments to media and that will happen with everyone. But his wife and family are much different. His wife is a hothead and her kids take after that, big time. He's intense, but has a much more level temperament then his wife and kids do.

I will never forgive him for calling out KU back in 2012 for refusing to give WSU a home-and-home deal. His whole “KU is scared of us” schtick pissed me off. The gym I was a member of at the time gave out free “Play Angry” themed T-shirts and the owner got offended when I immediately tossed mine in the trash. I told him I don’t support mid-major teams and he about blew an O-ring trying to convince me that WSU was NOT a mid-major.

Yes, I should also mention that WSU fans are in the same category as Marshall's family. They have bigger little brother syndrome than what kstate fans do.

But yeah that 2012 thing was not good. And I think looking back, he wished he didn't do it. He got caught up in the moment of frustration that he hears from the fan base and donors.

But people here in Wichita area are literally insane about Shockers. They were quiet this year, but the noise has ratcheted back up this year with them being pretty good. The whole KU thing has kind of fallen off though. Not as many care as they did when they were coming up in 2012 and that era. They were definitely feeding off the everyone disrepects us card and they took it out on KU, but now they are fairly self sustaining in a pretty good basketball conference for their size, so the noise has quieted down with KU/WSU series talk.

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:21 pm

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:11 pm

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:27 pm Being from the area and watching them, they're a good team. Bunch of young guys and they go deep in their bench. They go about 9-10 deep and no one really plays above 30 minutes. Never been Marshall's deal. He loves to play with depth on his team, compared to that of Bill who likes to go about 7-8 deep.

Only loss was to West Va that was close until the last parts of 2nd half. Front court has some good players, but their guards are the ones that make them go and they have a few pretty good ones. They'll be a 6 seed or so in the tournament and have some success there.

Now I will say this, and it's not popular here, but Marshall isn't that bad of a guy. Met him a few times. Remembers my name. Always kind, respectful, listens well and does a good job in big settings with lots of people. He's had some dumb comments to media and that will happen with everyone. But his wife and family are much different. His wife is a hothead and her kids take after that, big time. He's intense, but has a much more level temperament then his wife and kids do.

I will never forgive him for calling out KU back in 2012 for refusing to give WSU a home-and-home deal. His whole “KU is scared of us” schtick pissed me off. The gym I was a member of at the time gave out free “Play Angry” themed T-shirts and the owner got offended when I immediately tossed mine in the trash. I told him I don’t support mid-major teams and he about blew an O-ring trying to convince me that WSU was NOT a mid-major.

Yes, I should also mention that WSU fans are in the same category as Marshall's family. They have bigger little brother syndrome than what kstate fans do.

But yeah that 2012 thing was not good. And I think looking back, he wished he didn't do it. He got caught up in the moment of frustration that he hears from the fan base and donors.

But people here in Wichita area are literally insane about Shockers. They were quiet this year, but the noise has ratcheted back up this year with them being pretty good. The whole KU thing has kind of fallen off though. Not as many care as they did when they were coming up in 2012 and that era. They were definitely feeding off the everyone disrepects us card and they took it out on KU, but now they are fairly self sustaining in a pretty good basketball conference for their size, so the noise has quieted down with KU/WSU series talk.