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Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:41 pm
by ousdahl
Yes!
And that’s why we need to teach CRT in schools.
Otherwise, it’s taught like racism is a thing of the past, when it’s still very much an ongoing problem
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:43 pm
by Overlander
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:06 pm
Mjl wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 1:51 pm
Who told you it's the central focus?
What schools teach CRT?
You forget that I spend all day around educators.
Yeah, it really is hard to remember that.
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:27 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:07 pm
zsn wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:32 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 1:40 pm
Depends on what you mean by “downplay”. I don’t think you gloss it over, but I also don’t think you make it the central focus. Not sure why we can’t find that balance.
Ok, show me the balanced way to teach history in a way that explains we have had race-based slavery and segregation in this country longer than the time we haven’t
Why does that matter? Are they a current reality?
You're an "educator" and you actually asked both those questions?
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:54 pm
by Overlander
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:27 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:07 pm
zsn wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:32 pm
Ok, show me the balanced way to teach history in a way that explains we have had race-based slavery and segregation in this country longer than the time we haven’t
Why does that matter? Are they a current reality?
You're an "educator" and you actually asked both those questions?
POTD
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:30 am
by JKLivin
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:27 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:07 pm
zsn wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:32 pm
Ok, show me the balanced way to teach history in a way that explains we have had race-based slavery and segregation in this country longer than the time we haven’t
Why does that matter? Are they a current reality?
You're an "educator" and you actually asked both those questions?
If you read my previous post, you know that I was referring to the current practice of making EVERYTHING about race and discrimination and bad, bad oppressors. It is a small part of history, not the totality.
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:46 am
by Mjl
You're telling me that is what teachers in Bumblefuck, KS are teaching?
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:48 am
by Deleted User 863
Mjl wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:46 am
You're telling me that is what teachers in Bumblefuck, KS are teaching?
I'm certainly not in bumblefuck IL, but they aren't teaching it to my 2nd grader.
I think there's a big difference between teaching the full history of our country/the world to elementary kids vs to high schoolers.
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:36 am
by RainbowsandUnicorns
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:30 am
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:27 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:07 pm
Why does that matter? Are they a current reality?
You're an "educator" and you actually asked both those questions?
If you read my previous post, you know that I was referring to the current practice of making EVERYTHING about race and discrimination and bad, bad oppressors. It is a small part of history, not the totality.
This was the post you quoted.... "Ok, show me the balanced way to teach history in a way that explains we have had race-based slavery and segregation in this country longer than the time we haven’t"
And this was your response - "Why does that matter? Are they a current reality?"
Sorry I misunderstood exactly what you posted. I thought it was pretty much black and white (no pun intended) and you were asking why it mattered to teach an important part of our country's history - and you were stating (or at least implying) if something isn't a "current reality", it doesn't (or shouldn't?) matter.
My mistake!
Moving on.....
Who exactly is making "EVERYTHING" about race and discrimination?
Should race and discrimination not be an important topic to teach/discuss when were are referring to the history of this country?
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:11 pm
by zsn
Gutter- they haven’t got that far in the Faux News Talking Points Syllabus. They’re still hung up at the CRT = BAAAD part even though no one has any idea what CRT actually is. If they were honest they would have to admit and then teach that just about every public policy since the Civil War had undertones and effect of undoing the results of the War (ie. Racists lost). They would have to teach that one Party relied on this strategy (Southern Strategy) as its political platform. As I said before a good portion of the population wants to conveniently forget and brush under the rug the reality that a majority of this country’s past had policies based on racism and segregation.
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:55 pm
by JKLivin
#WokeGotcha
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:07 pm
by japhy
This article from the NY Times has it all; immigration, racism, slavery AND it is set in the Empire! Immigration is confusing in a place where the border and governmental control has changed multiple times.
And to go to all gutter on you, I did help Chip install the piece he is sitting in front of in the lead photo.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/17/arts ... d%20Design
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:56 pm
by Mjl
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:55 pm#WokeGotcha
You realize that you just parrot right wing talking points (woke! CRT! Brandon!) without even understanding them... Don't you? Like, have you ever had an original thought? Because the way you parrot those things is... pathetic.
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:38 pm
by JKLivin
Mjl wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:56 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:55 pm#WokeGotcha
You realize that you just parrot right wing talking points (woke! CRT! Brandon!) without even understanding them... Don't you? Like, have you ever had an original thought? Because the way you parrot those things is... pathetic.
You would be incorrect. I read widely and arrive at my own conclusions.
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:02 am
by Overlander
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:38 pm
Mjl wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:56 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:55 pm#WokeGotcha
You realize that you just parrot right wing talking points (woke! CRT! Brandon!) without even understanding them... Don't you? Like, have you ever had an original thought? Because the way you parrot those things is... pathetic.
You would be incorrect. I read widely and arrive at my own fucked up conclusions.
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:54 am
by KUTradition
tragedy in San Antonio…at least 46 migrants found dead in a semi trailer, along with several others hanging on to life (including children)
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:01 am
by Deleted User 863
KUTradition wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:54 am
tragedy in San Antonio…at least 46 migrants found dead in a semi trailer, along with several others hanging on to life (including children)
https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/27/us/san-a ... index.html
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:21 am
by KUTradition
death toll to 50
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:13 pm
by dolomite
KUTradition wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:21 am
death toll to 50
51, 12 females 39 males
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 9:48 am
by KUTradition
the world better come to terms with refugees/migrants pretty quickly
closing borders isn’t the answer, and is quite possibly the most immoral action to take. a step down from that, is using immigrants as pawns in political gamesmanship (pointing at you, abbott and deathsantis)
where is the humanity and compassion from the folks who like to claim that this is a christian nation?
we’re just now seeing the beginnings of climate refugees…it’s only going to get worse
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 10:03 am
by Deleted User 863
We also need to come to grips with the fact that unless major lifestyle changes take place our planet is over populated. Our planet can't sustain this amount of people as currently constructed.