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Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring
Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:37 pm
by Deleted User 863
Baylor probably thinks the same thing though. They beat us by 12 and lost to us by 3. A 3rd and/or 4th potential matchup would have been fun.
Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring
Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:48 pm
by NDballer13
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:22 pm
NDballer13 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:03 pm
I'm by no means saying they should award KU a title for 2020 just because they were the #1 overall seed. I'm saying that was KU's best chance in recent memory. Elite defense. Dominating big man. AA point guard. And they couldn't play for a title because the tourney gets canceled.
But, no, bad luck has had basically no impact on KU not having a title since 08.
Definitely was our best chance since Devonte's senior year. That wasn't THAT long ago.
I would say much better chance. 2018 was still a pretty 3 heavy team where one cold night could end it. Just so happened they ran into a white hot team than no one was beating on that night.
Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:07 am
by Deleted User 863
NDballer13 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:48 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:22 pm
NDballer13 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:03 pm
I'm by no means saying they should award KU a title for 2020 just because they were the #1 overall seed. I'm saying that was KU's best chance in recent memory. Elite defense. Dominating big man. AA point guard. And they couldn't play for a title because the tourney gets canceled.
But, no, bad luck has had basically no impact on KU not having a title since 08.
Definitely was our best chance since Devonte's senior year. That wasn't THAT long ago.
I would say much better chance. 2018 was still a pretty 3 heavy team where one cold night could end it. Just so happened they ran into a white hot team than no one was beating on that night.
I'd take 2018 over 2020 without much hesitation. Devonte was/is a lot better than Dotson.
Being 3 heavy/guard heavy isn't a negative in my opinion. It got them to a final 4. Baylor is pretty 3 heavy/guard heavy and it worked out ok for them.
Dok is a beast, but at the end of games was always going to have massive potential to be a liability.
Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:32 am
by Deleted User 89
dum
Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:39 am
by ousdahl
2020 Dok was a whole different beast.
And I dunno if the margin is really that big between Devonte and Dotson as college players. Both were AAs.
While Devonte’s skill set is more a natural PG with a good J too, Devon’s was simply being the quickest guy in the gym. Pick yer poison.
Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:47 am
by pdub
Yea, that's a fail.
Though 2018 was still a very good team.
Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:56 am
by NewtonHawk11
2018 team was really good. But really streaky too. Down by like 15 to Penn in 1st round game.
2020 was plain dominant.
Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:58 am
by Deleted User 863
Recency bias.
Guards win NCAA championships. Not big guys who have to go to the bench in close games with 2 min left.
Devonte Malik Svi and Vick would eat them alive.
Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:00 am
by ousdahl
Let’s keep feeding illy the rock you guys. I think he could get hot today. The boreds could use the production.
Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:01 am
by Deleted User 863
ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:00 am
Let’s keep feeding illy the rock you guys. I think he could get hot today. The boreds could use the production.
Nah. 8:20 tee time.
Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:04 am
by ousdahl
a hundred bucks you slice it in the woods.
Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:07 am
by Deleted User 863
I hit a draw off the tee...if it's bad it'll be a drop kick hook into the left rough.
Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:14 am
by ousdahl
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:07 am
Gambling is illegal at Bushwood, and I
never slice!
OK judge.
Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:14 am
by Deleted User 89
recency bias?
don’t think an extra two years qualifies, but whatever
Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:26 am
by pdub
Defense wins championships.
Since 2002 never before has a team outside of the top 25 AdjD won a title.
Kansas in 2018 was 47th.
Kansas in 2020 was 2nd.
Also hot take:
Devonte Graham's senior year wasn't THAT much better than Dotson's sophomore.
Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:28 am
by hasbeen
Devonte was far and away better than Dotson, but ya 2020 wins that matchup.
Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:30 am
by pdub
He was better.
Certainly not far and away.
Dotson scored more points per game and shot 7% better from the field.
7% is a LOT.
2020 Dotson was nasty.
Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:32 am
by pdub
Dotson 2020 more PPG, RPG, SPG, fewer TO/PG, better FG%.
Vonte had a lot of 4 for 12 type of games.
Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:33 am
by CrimsonNBlue
“Hey Illy, hold my beer.”
Re: Bryce Thompson Transferring
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:35 am
by hasbeen
pdub wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:32 am
Dotson 2020 more PPG, RPG, SPG, fewer TO/PG, better FG%.
Vonte had a lot of 4 for 12 type of games.
Are we still stripping all context from these types of numbers? That's been a thing dumb shits have done on message boards for decades, better not stop now I guess.