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ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 7:39 am One curiosity I’ve had is, how much strategic benefit can there really be to blowing up hospitals and news offices and residential civilian buildings, even if the bad guys are supposed to be hiding in there?

If they’re giving warning before they blow it up, do they really think Hamas is just gonna stay sitting around in there, waiting to be exploded? Especially if weighing against any sense of collateral damage, which they aren’t

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 8:17 am I will say this, could you imagine if Israel didn't have the ID? It would be an all out war and not just targeted strikes to what Israel seems to be housing places for Hamas. Many more deaths would be occurring on both sides and it would inevitably suck the US directly into it and we would have to send some sort of troops there to help.

Mjl wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 8:44 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 7:39 am One curiosity I’ve had is, how much strategic benefit can there really be to blowing up hospitals and news offices and residential civilian buildings, even if the bad guys are supposed to be hiding in there?

If they’re giving warning before they blow it up, do they really think Hamas is just gonna stay sitting around in there, waiting to be exploded? Especially if weighing against any sense of collateral damage, which they aren’t

What do you want Israel to do? Have their citizens live in bomb shelters their whole lives?

ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 10:05 am

Mjl wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 8:44 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 7:39 am One curiosity I’ve had is, how much strategic benefit can there really be to blowing up hospitals and news offices and residential civilian buildings, even if the bad guys are supposed to be hiding in there?

If they’re giving warning before they blow it up, do they really think Hamas is just gonna stay sitting around in there, waiting to be exploded? Especially if weighing against any sense of collateral damage, which they aren’t

What do you want Israel to do? Have their citizens live in bomb shelters their whole lives?

Far from it, dude.

What do you want Israel to do? Keep going apartheid on mosques and dropping bombs on kids?

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 10:25 am given that Israel makes millions, if not billions off of selling their own weapons, i have no issue with this, particularly if it’s true what i’ve been hearing about Israeli settlers being bussed around to start shit with Arab Israelis

TDub wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 11:05 am Read the other day but didnt fact check... this was days ago.... but. 232 dead palestinians, 18 dead Israelis.

Now, we do the same thing in conflicts, so I'm not judging anything other than how the media is spinning it

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 10:59 am Well, isn’t their gummint sort of a big part of the problem too?

Their gummint is pulling some radical militant shit. It’s not like it’s random vigilantes pepper spraying mosques. And I wonder what proportion of bombs dropped by Israel is by the gummint vs rogue individuals

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 11:26 am Yeah, I too have seen lots of reports about how Israel has been much more aggressive, dropped far more bombs, and racked up a much higher body count.

They’re the colonial oppressors and Palestine is the oppressed and displaced (at least since the 40s or whatever.) Israel has the support of the US gummint and way more resources - an actual military vs. Palestine’s ragtag forces.

Yeah Hamas gets the terrorist label, but why doesn’t Israel?

The current conflict started apparently when Israeli forces cut speaker cords broadcasting prayers on the first day of Ramadan.*

But depending on who reports it, the narrative is, Israel has to defend themselves so why shouldn’t they, or whatever, as if Israel is the ones about to be wiped off the map otherwise


*just for a second imagine if a bunch of Muslims busted in and interrupted Easter service at like the Vatican. Or some like Texas mega church

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 11:19 am there will never be sustained peace as long as 1) Hamas (or the like) is in power, and 2) Israel quits with the land grabs

Mjl wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 3:53 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 10:59 am Well, isn’t their gummint sort of a big part of the problem too?

Their gummint is pulling some radical militant shit. It’s not like it’s random vigilantes pepper spraying mosques. And I wonder what proportion of bombs dropped by Israel is by the gummint vs rogue individuals

Go live in a fucking bunker with sirens going off all around you constantly and tell me that you don't want your government defending you.