NCAA Football 2024 Season
Re: NCAA Football 2024 Season
Bama's Jalen Milroe is what we hoped Jalon Daniels was going to be.
-
- Contributor
- Posts: 12420
- Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2021 8:19 am
Re: NCAA Football 2024 Season
That's kind of like going out on a blind date and hoping your blind date looks like this..
and she looks like this.....
Gutter wrote: Fri Nov 8th 2:16pm
New President - New Gutter. I am going to pledge my allegiance to Donald J. Trump and for the next 4 years I am going to be an even bigger asshole than I already am.
New President - New Gutter. I am going to pledge my allegiance to Donald J. Trump and for the next 4 years I am going to be an even bigger asshole than I already am.
-
- Contributor
- Posts: 12420
- Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2021 8:19 am
Re: NCAA Football 2024 Season
Odds to win the Heisman 2 days ago from BetMGM.
What's wrong with this picture?
PLAYER CURRENT ODDS OPENING ODDS
Cam Ward +375 +2000
Jaxson Dart +500 +2000
Jalen Milroe +700 +800
Nico Iamaleava +900 +1100
Dillon Gabriel +1000 +800
Quinn Ewers +1400 +800
Carson Beck +1600 +800
Travis Hunter +1600 +3500
Ashton Jeanty +2000 [not priced]
Will Howard +2200 +1400
Miller Moss +2500 +3000
Drew Allar +3500 +5000
Garrett Nussmeier +5000 +1800
Cade Klubnik +5000 +3500
Arch Manning +5000 +10000
Riley Leonard +6600 +2000
Brady Cook +6600 +2000
Noah Fifita +6600 +2500
Luther Burden +8000 +5000
Shedeur Sanders +10000 +2500
I'll tell you what's wrong.
First I am going to say, this is what the award is supposed to be awarded for.....
"Outstanding performance which best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity. Winners epitomize great ability combined with diligence, perseverance, hard work".
Is that what the voters really use to vote? Or do they just think of who they feel the "top" or "best" player is?
Supposedly there are 870 media voters, 57 previous Heisman winners who can vote, and a single vote that is representative of the "fans" vote.
The voters are supposed to vote for their top 3 choices in order of 1, 2, 3.
THIS is what I feel is wrong. Of the top 20 players I listed. I am confident of the 928 voters, 75% of them will never have seen some of those on the list play a single game. Those who do see them play a single game, will base their votes on that single game. Heck, I'm confident a substantial amount of the media members and Heisman winners couldn't tell you today what teams at least 5 of those on the list play for.
Those odds are fucked up! Yes, I realize those odds are based on who they felt would win. Not who they felt is most deserving, so that's why I can/do cut them SOME slack, but they are still fucked up. Even from 2 days ago.
Ok, all that being said, if I had a vote (I suppose I do as a "fan") and I was voting for the "TOP" or "BEST" player, Sheduer Sanders would be in my top 15 if not top 10. Travis Hunter would be in my top 5 if not top 3. Jalen Milroe would be my top pick at the moment. Now if I was voting for ""Outstanding performance which best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity. Winners epitomize great ability combined with diligence, perseverance, hard work", then my voting might be a bit different only because of the word "integrity".
P.S. If I was wagering $1000 on who I felt was most deserving. I would wager $20 on Sanders at +10000, $30 on Hunter at +1600 and $50 on Milroe at +700.
What's wrong with this picture?
PLAYER CURRENT ODDS OPENING ODDS
Cam Ward +375 +2000
Jaxson Dart +500 +2000
Jalen Milroe +700 +800
Nico Iamaleava +900 +1100
Dillon Gabriel +1000 +800
Quinn Ewers +1400 +800
Carson Beck +1600 +800
Travis Hunter +1600 +3500
Ashton Jeanty +2000 [not priced]
Will Howard +2200 +1400
Miller Moss +2500 +3000
Drew Allar +3500 +5000
Garrett Nussmeier +5000 +1800
Cade Klubnik +5000 +3500
Arch Manning +5000 +10000
Riley Leonard +6600 +2000
Brady Cook +6600 +2000
Noah Fifita +6600 +2500
Luther Burden +8000 +5000
Shedeur Sanders +10000 +2500
I'll tell you what's wrong.
First I am going to say, this is what the award is supposed to be awarded for.....
"Outstanding performance which best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity. Winners epitomize great ability combined with diligence, perseverance, hard work".
Is that what the voters really use to vote? Or do they just think of who they feel the "top" or "best" player is?
Supposedly there are 870 media voters, 57 previous Heisman winners who can vote, and a single vote that is representative of the "fans" vote.
The voters are supposed to vote for their top 3 choices in order of 1, 2, 3.
THIS is what I feel is wrong. Of the top 20 players I listed. I am confident of the 928 voters, 75% of them will never have seen some of those on the list play a single game. Those who do see them play a single game, will base their votes on that single game. Heck, I'm confident a substantial amount of the media members and Heisman winners couldn't tell you today what teams at least 5 of those on the list play for.
Those odds are fucked up! Yes, I realize those odds are based on who they felt would win. Not who they felt is most deserving, so that's why I can/do cut them SOME slack, but they are still fucked up. Even from 2 days ago.
Ok, all that being said, if I had a vote (I suppose I do as a "fan") and I was voting for the "TOP" or "BEST" player, Sheduer Sanders would be in my top 15 if not top 10. Travis Hunter would be in my top 5 if not top 3. Jalen Milroe would be my top pick at the moment. Now if I was voting for ""Outstanding performance which best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity. Winners epitomize great ability combined with diligence, perseverance, hard work", then my voting might be a bit different only because of the word "integrity".
P.S. If I was wagering $1000 on who I felt was most deserving. I would wager $20 on Sanders at +10000, $30 on Hunter at +1600 and $50 on Milroe at +700.
Gutter wrote: Fri Nov 8th 2:16pm
New President - New Gutter. I am going to pledge my allegiance to Donald J. Trump and for the next 4 years I am going to be an even bigger asshole than I already am.
New President - New Gutter. I am going to pledge my allegiance to Donald J. Trump and for the next 4 years I am going to be an even bigger asshole than I already am.
-
- Contributor
- Posts: 12420
- Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2021 8:19 am
Re: NCAA Football 2024 Season
Vandy is going to end up losing. Sucks. For them.
Gutter wrote: Fri Nov 8th 2:16pm
New President - New Gutter. I am going to pledge my allegiance to Donald J. Trump and for the next 4 years I am going to be an even bigger asshole than I already am.
New President - New Gutter. I am going to pledge my allegiance to Donald J. Trump and for the next 4 years I am going to be an even bigger asshole than I already am.
-
- Contributor
- Posts: 12420
- Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2021 8:19 am
Re: NCAA Football 2024 Season
If Bama loses this - I don't see how Kane Wommack keeps his job. Dude is just as deserving (if not more deserving) of losing his job as Grimes is.RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:10 pm Vandy is going to end up losing. Sucks. For them.
Gutter wrote: Fri Nov 8th 2:16pm
New President - New Gutter. I am going to pledge my allegiance to Donald J. Trump and for the next 4 years I am going to be an even bigger asshole than I already am.
New President - New Gutter. I am going to pledge my allegiance to Donald J. Trump and for the next 4 years I am going to be an even bigger asshole than I already am.
-
- Contributor
- Posts: 12420
- Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2021 8:19 am
Re: NCAA Football 2024 Season
Down goes Bama. Lulz.RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:24 pmIf Bama loses this - I don't see how Kane Wommack keeps his job. Dude is just as deserving (if not more deserving) of losing his job as Grimes is.RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:10 pm Vandy is going to end up losing. Sucks. For them.
Gutter wrote: Fri Nov 8th 2:16pm
New President - New Gutter. I am going to pledge my allegiance to Donald J. Trump and for the next 4 years I am going to be an even bigger asshole than I already am.
New President - New Gutter. I am going to pledge my allegiance to Donald J. Trump and for the next 4 years I am going to be an even bigger asshole than I already am.
Re: NCAA Football 2024 Season
Yay!RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:43 pmDown goes Bama. Lulz.RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:24 pmIf Bama loses this - I don't see how Kane Wommack keeps his job. Dude is just as deserving (if not more deserving) of losing his job as Grimes is.RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:10 pm Vandy is going to end up losing. Sucks. For them.
It's probably hard to imagine how stoked the Vandy fans are.
Gotta love that mizzou lost.
“The Electoral College is DEI for rural white folks.”
Derek Cressman
Derek Cressman
- Back2Lawrence
- Posts: 3142
- Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:08 pm
Re: NCAA Football 2024 Season
I’d be ‘happy’ Mizzou lost if KU wasn’t playing so much below expectations
-
- Contributor
- Posts: 12420
- Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2021 8:19 am
Re: NCAA Football 2024 Season
Watched a lot of the Miami/Cal game. Miami was down 25 in the 3rd. I wonder what those odds were before the game. Then I wonder what the odds were during the game that Miami would come back and win. Of course I fell asleep after Miami scored in the 4th and was down 13. I was excited to see if they would come back and win.
Yesterday....
Down went 1, 4, 9, 10, and 11. Have fun with that CFP folks.
Yesterday....
Down went 1, 4, 9, 10, and 11. Have fun with that CFP folks.
Gutter wrote: Fri Nov 8th 2:16pm
New President - New Gutter. I am going to pledge my allegiance to Donald J. Trump and for the next 4 years I am going to be an even bigger asshole than I already am.
New President - New Gutter. I am going to pledge my allegiance to Donald J. Trump and for the next 4 years I am going to be an even bigger asshole than I already am.
Re: NCAA Football 2024 Season
CU v K state, late game Friday night on ESPN .
LOTS of primetime haters (both coach and late games), but this should be a good watch. "billions" of viewers.
Yeah, I'm not a fan of coach Prime, but, damn he's brought a ton of interest and $$$$ to CU.
Big fan of Travis Hunter...
LOTS of primetime haters (both coach and late games), but this should be a good watch. "billions" of viewers.
Yeah, I'm not a fan of coach Prime, but, damn he's brought a ton of interest and $$$$ to CU.
Big fan of Travis Hunter...
-
- Contributor
- Posts: 12420
- Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2021 8:19 am
Re: NCAA Football 2024 Season
Northwestern blows. They are 3-3. I predict they finish 4-8.
Kansas blows (but I feel has A LOT more talent than Northwestern). They are 1-5. I predict they finish 3-9.
How about my getting them to agree to play a meaningless game on December 21st at Wrigley Field and I will throw an all expense paid trip to Chicago for the kansascrimson.com members? Who's in?
Worthless predictions for the week.....
Scar +22 at Bama (Bama by 17)
Clem at Wake +21 (Clem by 20)
Mizzou -27.5 at UMass (Mizzou by 31)
Texas at Oklahoma +17 (Texas by 10)
PSU at USC +3.5 (USC by 7)
Stanford +22.5 at Dame (Dame by 20)
Cal at Pitt -3.5 (Pitt by 13)
Purdue +22.5 at ILL (Ill by 21)
AZ at BYU -2.5 (BYU by 4)
Miss St at Geo -34 (Geo by 35)
FLA at TENN -14.5 (TENN by 16)
tOSU -3 at OREG (tOSU by 8)
Ole Miss at LSU +3.5 (LSU by 7)
Iowa St -3 at WVU (ISU by 10)
KSU at COLO +3.5 (COLO by 7)
BSU at Hawaii +20.5 (BSU by 20)
Kansas blows (but I feel has A LOT more talent than Northwestern). They are 1-5. I predict they finish 3-9.
How about my getting them to agree to play a meaningless game on December 21st at Wrigley Field and I will throw an all expense paid trip to Chicago for the kansascrimson.com members? Who's in?
Worthless predictions for the week.....
Scar +22 at Bama (Bama by 17)
Clem at Wake +21 (Clem by 20)
Mizzou -27.5 at UMass (Mizzou by 31)
Texas at Oklahoma +17 (Texas by 10)
PSU at USC +3.5 (USC by 7)
Stanford +22.5 at Dame (Dame by 20)
Cal at Pitt -3.5 (Pitt by 13)
Purdue +22.5 at ILL (Ill by 21)
AZ at BYU -2.5 (BYU by 4)
Miss St at Geo -34 (Geo by 35)
FLA at TENN -14.5 (TENN by 16)
tOSU -3 at OREG (tOSU by 8)
Ole Miss at LSU +3.5 (LSU by 7)
Iowa St -3 at WVU (ISU by 10)
KSU at COLO +3.5 (COLO by 7)
BSU at Hawaii +20.5 (BSU by 20)
Gutter wrote: Fri Nov 8th 2:16pm
New President - New Gutter. I am going to pledge my allegiance to Donald J. Trump and for the next 4 years I am going to be an even bigger asshole than I already am.
New President - New Gutter. I am going to pledge my allegiance to Donald J. Trump and for the next 4 years I am going to be an even bigger asshole than I already am.
Re: NCAA Football 2024 Season
ASU beat down Utah. A big problem for Kansas this year is they played a lot of good teams early. May have the toughest schedule ever. Did not see that coming.
Re: NCAA Football 2024 Season
What?!?!? We just lost UT and OU?!!! The Big 12 is wide open. The toughest schedule ever from a kid who for sure goes back to the BIG 8. Ludacris...
I bet $10 of Gutter's money we 6-0 if we had OC AK but we do not. At this point I only care about 1 game. That game is with the team that wears Purple. We have lost all of our MOJO and it is not coming back anytime soon. I believe we stuck with the Division 3 Wizard.
Re: NCAA Football 2024 Season
But I am watching Alabama. How did this team beat Georgia??? They looking not so good against South Carolina. Man if they lose this game the wheels coming off.
- Back2Lawrence
- Posts: 3142
- Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:08 pm
Re: NCAA Football 2024 Season
Yeah, we don’t miss AK at all. And this doesn’t show all the pre-snap movement.
Re: NCAA Football 2024 Season
But PSU was down two touchdowns.
- Back2Lawrence
- Posts: 3142
- Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:08 pm
Re: NCAA Football 2024 Season
First half was pretty abysmal. Second half, good offense seems to have led to good defense. Minus a relatively unlucky pick by Allar.
Re: NCAA Football 2024 Season
The first five major teams KU played are a collective 21-6, which is not what anyone expected.
- Back2Lawrence
- Posts: 3142
- Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:08 pm
Re: NCAA Football 2024 Season
So win 2, lose 3, and we are 3-3.
Not hard to imagine with the way the roster lined up.
Not hard to imagine with the way the roster lined up.
- Back2Lawrence
- Posts: 3142
- Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:08 pm
Re: NCAA Football 2024 Season
USC shredding PSU on this drive