Kansas Crimson

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:41 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:16 am It feels to me like you're mixing concepts a little bit here.

"Enthusiasm" to vote - which I'd certainly say can be evidenced by early voting figures - is not the same thing as "enthusiasm" arising from the surprise announcement of a VP candidate.

Right! I am indeed mixing concepts.
Kind of like your kids enthusiasm about the birthday presents they opened months ago was mixing concepts.
But....
In regards to correlation, I think the "enthusiasm" to vote, that we were being told about in August (per the link I provided), are being told about today, and will be told about on November 4th (the day before the election), will have been overstated. At least the enthusiasm to vote for Kamala Harris (and Tim Walz).
I know most on here hope I am wrong. I probably hope I'm wrong too.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:08 am

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:41 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:16 am It feels to me like you're mixing concepts a little bit here.

"Enthusiasm" to vote - which I'd certainly say can be evidenced by early voting figures - is not the same thing as "enthusiasm" arising from the surprise announcement of a VP candidate.

Right! I am indeed mixing concepts.
Kind of like your kids enthusiasm about the birthday presents they opened months ago was mixing concepts.
But....
In regards to correlation, I think the "enthusiasm" to vote, that we were being told about in August (per the link I provided), are being told about today, and will be told about on November 4th (the day before the election), will have been overstated. At least the enthusiasm to vote for Kamala Harris (and Tim Walz).
I know most on here hope I am wrong. I probably hope I'm wrong too.

I think it is certainly true that you are not enthusiastic. I think it is also certainly true that, no matter what, the Rs are going to try to paint a picture of waning D enthusiasm - and we KNOW, on election night, that the moment the election will be "over" (to the Rs, and Trump) is going to be a matter of convenience.

To the Rs, there are only two possible outcomes, whether on election night or at any time afterward: Trump won legitimately, or the Ds cheated.

It is very important to understand - including for purposes of separating the wheat from the chaff over these final two weeks - that a legitimate Harris victory is simply not something that is within the universe of possible, to the Rs and Trump.

zsn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:35 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 7:59 am

zsn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:33 am https://www.washingtonpost.com/investig ... tro-video/

Many Trump supporters with small followings promoted the post as a bombshell revelation about the conduct of Vice President Kamala Harris’s running mate toward students when he was a teacher, one made credible because there was seemingly a named accuser who had attended a school where Walz taught.

Sheeple!!

To be fair, he does give off that creepy pedo vibe.

What Shirley said. You got nothing.

Overlander wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:42 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 7:59 am

zsn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:33 am https://www.washingtonpost.com/investig ... tro-video/

Many Trump supporters with small followings promoted the post as a bombshell revelation about the conduct of Vice President Kamala Harris’s running mate toward students when he was a teacher, one made credible because there was seemingly a named accuser who had attended a school where Walz taught.

Sheeple!!

To be fair, he does give off that creepy pedo vibe.

I guess as a guy that hoped a kid got molested, you just have an eye for spotting them.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:08 am

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:41 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:16 am It feels to me like you're mixing concepts a little bit here.

"Enthusiasm" to vote - which I'd certainly say can be evidenced by early voting figures - is not the same thing as "enthusiasm" arising from the surprise announcement of a VP candidate.

Right! I am indeed mixing concepts.
Kind of like your kids enthusiasm about the birthday presents they opened months ago was mixing concepts.
But....
In regards to correlation, I think the "enthusiasm" to vote, that we were being told about in August (per the link I provided), are being told about today, and will be told about on November 4th (the day before the election), will have been overstated. At least the enthusiasm to vote for Kamala Harris (and Tim Walz).
I know most on here hope I am wrong. I probably hope I'm wrong too.

I think it is certainly true that you are not enthusiastic. I think it is also certainly true that, no matter what, the Rs are going to try to paint a picture of waning D enthusiasm - and we KNOW, on election night, that the moment the election will be "over" (to the Rs, and Trump) is going to be a matter of convenience.

To the Rs, there are only two possible outcomes, whether on election night or at any time afterward: Trump won legitimately, or the Ds cheated.

It is very important to understand - including for purposes of separating the wheat from the chaff over these final two weeks - that a legitimate Harris victory is simply not something that is within the universe of possible, to the Rs and Trump.

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:29 am

zsn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:35 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 7:59 am

To be fair, he does give off that creepy pedo vibe.

What Shirley said. You got nothing.

Well, to also be fair, I never said Trump was pristine. Funny how you guys always loop back to "Yeah, well, Trump did/does ____________" rather than telling us how fantastic your guy is. (Shrug)

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:32 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:08 am

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:41 am

Right! I am indeed mixing concepts.
Kind of like your kids enthusiasm about the birthday presents they opened months ago was mixing concepts.
But....
In regards to correlation, I think the "enthusiasm" to vote, that we were being told about in August (per the link I provided), are being told about today, and will be told about on November 4th (the day before the election), will have been overstated. At least the enthusiasm to vote for Kamala Harris (and Tim Walz).
I know most on here hope I am wrong. I probably hope I'm wrong too.

I think it is certainly true that you are not enthusiastic. I think it is also certainly true that, no matter what, the Rs are going to try to paint a picture of waning D enthusiasm - and we KNOW, on election night, that the moment the election will be "over" (to the Rs, and Trump) is going to be a matter of convenience.

To the Rs, there are only two possible outcomes, whether on election night or at any time afterward: Trump won legitimately, or the Ds cheated.

It is very important to understand - including for purposes of separating the wheat from the chaff over these final two weeks - that a legitimate Harris victory is simply not something that is within the universe of possible, to the Rs and Trump.

"To the Rs, there are only two possible outcomes, whether on election night or at any time afterward: Trump won legitimately, or the Ds cheated."

That's pretty logical considering the Dumpster fire that Brandon has been and the cluster hump that Giggles would be. Not really any other plausible explanations.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:36 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:32 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:08 am

I think it is certainly true that you are not enthusiastic. I think it is also certainly true that, no matter what, the Rs are going to try to paint a picture of waning D enthusiasm - and we KNOW, on election night, that the moment the election will be "over" (to the Rs, and Trump) is going to be a matter of convenience.

To the Rs, there are only two possible outcomes, whether on election night or at any time afterward: Trump won legitimately, or the Ds cheated.

It is very important to understand - including for purposes of separating the wheat from the chaff over these final two weeks - that a legitimate Harris victory is simply not something that is within the universe of possible, to the Rs and Trump.

"To the Rs, there are only two possible outcomes, whether on election night or at any time afterward: Trump won legitimately, or the Ds cheated."

That's pretty logical considering the Dumpster fire that Brandon has been and the cluster hump that Giggles would be. Not really any other plausible explanations.

So: is there the possibility of a legitimate Harris victory?

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:48 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:36 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:32 am

"To the Rs, there are only two possible outcomes, whether on election night or at any time afterward: Trump won legitimately, or the Ds cheated."

That's pretty logical considering the Dumpster fire that Brandon has been and the cluster hump that Giggles would be. Not really any other plausible explanations.

So: is there the possibility of a legitimate Harris victory?

There is no logical, legitimate way that Giggles wins. Period.

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:32 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:08 am

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:41 am

Right! I am indeed mixing concepts.
Kind of like your kids enthusiasm about the birthday presents they opened months ago was mixing concepts.
But....
In regards to correlation, I think the "enthusiasm" to vote, that we were being told about in August (per the link I provided), are being told about today, and will be told about on November 4th (the day before the election), will have been overstated. At least the enthusiasm to vote for Kamala Harris (and Tim Walz).
I know most on here hope I am wrong. I probably hope I'm wrong too.

I think it is certainly true that you are not enthusiastic. I think it is also certainly true that, no matter what, the Rs are going to try to paint a picture of waning D enthusiasm - and we KNOW, on election night, that the moment the election will be "over" (to the Rs, and Trump) is going to be a matter of convenience.

To the Rs, there are only two possible outcomes, whether on election night or at any time afterward: Trump won legitimately, or the Ds cheated.

It is very important to understand - including for purposes of separating the wheat from the chaff over these final two weeks - that a legitimate Harris victory is simply not something that is within the universe of possible, to the Rs and Trump.

"To the Rs, there are only two possible outcomes, whether on election night or at any time afterward: Trump won legitimately, or the Ds cheated."

That's pretty logical considering the Dumpster fire that Brandon has been and the cluster hump that Giggles would be. Not really any other plausible explanations.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:50 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:48 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:36 am

So: is there the possibility of a legitimate Harris victory?

There is no logical, legitimate way that Giggles wins. Period.

Is there the possibility of a legitimate Harris victory? Whether you would consider it "logical" or otherwise?

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:17 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:50 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:48 am

There is no logical, legitimate way that Giggles wins. Period.

Is there the possibility of a legitimate Harris victory? Whether you would consider it "logical" or otherwise?

None.

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:21 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:17 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:50 am

Is there the possibility of a legitimate Harris victory? Whether you would consider it "logical" or otherwise?

None.

Then you greatly underestimate the number of people who feel that Donald Trump has committed dozens of disqualifying acts, which he obviously has.

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:43 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:21 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:17 am

None.

Then you greatly underestimate the number of people who feel that Donald Trump has committed dozens of disqualifying acts, which he obviously has.

You're duped. And you greatly underestimate the number of people who care more about a safe country and a solid economy than whether or not someone says or tweets mean things.

Shirley wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:06 am

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:41 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:16 am It feels to me like you're mixing concepts a little bit here.

"Enthusiasm" to vote - which I'd certainly say can be evidenced by early voting figures - is not the same thing as "enthusiasm" arising from the surprise announcement of a VP candidate.

Right! I am indeed mixing concepts.
Kind of like your kids enthusiasm about the birthday presents they opened months ago was mixing concepts.
But....
In regards to correlation, I think the "enthusiasm" to vote, that we were being told about in August (per the link I provided), are being told about today, and will be told about on November 4th (the day before the election), will have been overstated. At least the enthusiasm to vote for Kamala Harris (and Tim Walz).
I know most on here hope I am wrong. I probably hope I'm wrong too.

Republicans have considered large voter turnouts to be kryptonite for them going back decades. If you don't believe me, you're kidding yourself.

But the whole doubt your fellow Americans and America's institutions, which Russian propaganda has promoted for decades, didn't really seem to become part of the Republican playbook until Putin poodle Trump arrived, enabled massively by social media. Talk about "luck"! It turns out, suppressing the vote, suppressing the will to care to vote, and destroying Americans' faith in their institutions by Republicans and their Russian helpers dovetail quite nicely. Yay!?

Gutter is a fine example of the fruits of their labor.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:08 am

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:41 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:16 am It feels to me like you're mixing concepts a little bit here.

"Enthusiasm" to vote - which I'd certainly say can be evidenced by early voting figures - is not the same thing as "enthusiasm" arising from the surprise announcement of a VP candidate.

Right! I am indeed mixing concepts.
Kind of like your kids enthusiasm about the birthday presents they opened months ago was mixing concepts.
But....
In regards to correlation, I think the "enthusiasm" to vote, that we were being told about in August (per the link I provided), are being told about today, and will be told about on November 4th (the day before the election), will have been overstated. At least the enthusiasm to vote for Kamala Harris (and Tim Walz).
I know most on here hope I am wrong. I probably hope I'm wrong too.

I think it is certainly true that you are not enthusiastic. I think it is also certainly true that, no matter what, the Rs are going to try to paint a picture of waning D enthusiasm - and we KNOW, on election night, that the moment the election will be "over" (to the Rs, and Trump) is going to be a matter of convenience.

To the Rs, there are only two possible outcomes, whether on election night or at any time afterward: Trump won legitimately, or the Ds cheated.

It is very important to understand - including for purposes of separating the wheat from the chaff over these final two weeks - that a legitimate Harris victory is simply not something that is within the universe of possible, to the Rs and Trump.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 7:48 pm I’m good with this guy.