Biden pardons faucci? (And his other finals acts)

[KUTradition]

DC would be a loss but he rarely posts here and lately, when he does, it’s to correct what he considers a misguided comment about the worst president to ever serve in the history of our country.


^^^^

[jfish26]

What was a joke?

DC's post here -- because that sure looked like he was saying, hey, these things are the same, no reason for you at this moment to get upset -- and let me defend randy and psych.
Or Elon's salute ( that he did twice ) that he still hasn't come out and overtly denied.

If DC's post was a joke, it was a whiff.
If Elon's Sieg Heil was a joke, it should, in so many other worlds, land him in deep trouble with some questions to answer.

I would just say - someone who has had the sort of not-baseless accusations of, ah, making kissy-faces with Nazi sympathizers, should be held to a HIGHER standard.

Should get LESS benefit of the doubt, as to whether a gesture like what he did is or isn't what it looks like.

[BiggDick]

man.

I was going to stay out of this, and should prob stay out of this, but since I think I have a perspective worth offering, and I agree that the discourse suffers in the absence of diverse perspectives, and since I was mentioned by name anyway...here we go!

I do think that NOT banning certain posters earlier has been part of the board's demise. To a large degree, it's the lobster/randy anti-vax crusaders who could not and would not read the room. (and yea, take a shot at me here for not reading the room either...zing!) I think the anti-vaxxers got, and maybe continued to get, way more leash than they should have.

I think not banning certain posters goes a bit further than that. It's the general culture of toxicity that's been perpetuated, that simply isn't allowed in most other online communities. It's mods here picking and choosing what to mod based less on some objective measure of what content should be allowed, and more just the subjective arbitrary whims of the mods

(seriously? during the Super Bowl? During the Natty? No wonder those posters didn't come back...especially considering these weren't just some new-that-day sock, but some years-long well-known established posters who were posting the exact same kinda shit they always posted)

I think DC did walk a fine line for much of the Trump era. "I swear I don't like Trump but I'm just gonna act kinda giddy about this whole culture of lib-owning anyway." But, DC's hardly been around. That, I think, is more than anything cuz he was burned out on what a circle jerk the pols board can be (and heads up, I define "circle jerk" to be, by its inherent nature, multiple people.)

I agree that DC as a whole did up the game of the pols board.

Now, what did Shirley and PhD disagree on about vaccines?

Also, I wish I could reconcile someone who identifies as a socialist, yet also vilifies me as having gone to the dark sides. I think it's a combination of maybe some limited understanding of what "socialism" really is, combined with some partisan-fueled cognitive dissonant knee-jerk reaction to me saying things like, "heads up but the Democratic Party has far more in common with the Republican Party than it does with socialism." Oh well.

Back to DC (I'm going roughly in chronological order here, and more discussing the climate of the boards as a whole that has popped up here, rather than other comments that are actually kinda more on topic with the pols board itself)...

I think DC did effectivly defend Republicans, but only sometimes. More so, he was critical of the entire pols board and American political world as a whole. I think that often was perceived as partisan tho, as I think much of partisan conditioning results in posters thinking anything they don't agree with is defending the other side. A previous, more establishment partisan, non-"darker side" version of myself used to be this way too.

But let's wrap this up for now by just saying, try to generally realize not every political view necessarily falls within some binary bounds. Much of it is more on a spectrum.

One other thought, since this poster too was mentioned by name, and mentioned as a "miraculous transformation." While I agree illy has improved as a whole, he's also effectively been given license to be as insufferable as he wants to me specifically. I suppose it's permitted because I have spent whatever capital I accumulated, mostly cuz of political disagreements.

But, while I make an effort to at least be civil, illy can still run wild at times - The personal attacks. The petty putdowns. The name calling. The profanities. The gatekeeping. The mental health smack talk. The disability smack talk! The antagonistic doubling down on some issue when a poster otherwise kindly asks to just let it go. Those are all things that gets you banned from most other online communities. Yet here, they're given harbor.

(I'm also tempted to mention the "I'm quoting you for the Nth time today just to once again mention I'm ignoring you" sort of phenomenon," but lately at least those posters really have backed off a tad...finally!)

And FWIW I use "illy" not simply to single out a poster, but to bring attention to a particular posting style, tho illy the poster might be historically the biggest offender, and has done perhaps the most to create and maintain the culture...unless we want to rather accuse the mods of permitting that culture to be maintained. And, I realize, I, sadly, have given into that culture too! But I try to be cognizant and avoid perpetuating it going forward.

anywho...back to our regularly scheduled programming?

[pdub]

Half of that is woe is me eye roll.
Just my opinion.

[TDub]

if pdub was indiscriminately banning trolls you'd have been gone long ago. you've got one of those extra length super leashes.

[BiggDick]

and yet, I've never been banned.

I've never even been warned.

But yea sometimes I do feel like it's just a matter of time LOL

tho I dunno if that's that's a matter of me specifically or more just how the entire board has been trending

[BiggDick]

Half of that is woe is me eye roll.
Just my opinion.

sigh.

and the other half?

[pdub]

Decent.

[BiggDick]

Decent?!

Despite all the stale crumbs and loosing the moisture?

...wait nm sorry, confusing this other half with the donuts thread.

and I don't mean to go for woe is me eye roll. But, let's put it this way, pdub: I'm serviceably confident that if I treated you the way you've permitted illy to treat me, I really would have been banned by now too.

That's to say - I hope you might at least consider the concerns about the pick-and-choose arbitrary subjective approach to moderating as among the decent half of this break room pastry.

[TDub]

oh god, do we nees to go over this again? you've said some pretty terrible things and had some pretty pointed and aggressive personal attacks but yet, consistently you go to the "oh no everyone treats me bad for absolutely no reason" bit. whatever dude.

[Sparko]

How dangerous are the Fox addled posters promoting fascism? I would say they have already done a lot of damage. Going forward, we really need to have objectives facts that aren't maligned. Tough sledding. But here we are

[pdub]

illy, in the past, said some fairly nasty things to me, and ( he can correct me if i'm wrong but i'm pretty sure i'm right ) I never time-out'd him ( for that specifically ). He also had some moments in the past that remind me of you - again, just my opinion. DC, too.

I do recall time-out'ing him for an hour or two during the OU KU football game for siding with the officials who blew a call...but not for goin' full illy.

I think the only poster i've put in timeout for being nasty was Vega ( as he crossed personal boundaries ), hasbeen ( trollin' to troll - for an hour or two ) and recently psych ( for a day ).

I have not perma-banned anyone who wasn't clearly a troll account sans Phogusher and lobster.

[Overlander]

https://apnews.com/article/leonard-pelt ... 4426366775#

WASHINGTON (AP) — Indigenous activist Leonard Peltier will return home nearly half a century after he was imprisoned for the 1975 killings of two FBI agents. President Joe Biden commuted Peltier’s sentence Monday following decades of community-led advocacy calling his imprisonment an example of the U.S. government’s mistreatment of Native Americans.

Its about fucking time....

[BiggDick]

oh god, do we nees to go over this again? you've said some pretty terrible things and had some pretty pointed and aggressive personal attacks but yet, consistently you go to the "oh no everyone treats me bad for absolutely no reason" bit. whatever dude.

I never said everybody treats me bad for "absolutely no reason," In fact, I even gave a reason!

And, sadly, there are very few posters who have NOT made some personal attack at some point, particularly on the pols board.

I, unfortunately, and like I said, have been among them.

But where I try to do better is, I try to do better. AGAIN, I try to be cognizant and avoid perpetuating it going forward.

in contrast, you tdub, once again, in real time, right here right now, and obliviously as ever, double down on yet another iteration of "I know you are but what am I?"

So, instead, let me double down on this: can we ALL just try to be cognizant and avoid perpetuating it going forward?

...please?

[pdub]

I agree - we should all try to be better regarding personal attacks ( including myself ).
That is, unless you voted for Trump this second time around, then you can fuck right off.

[Overlander]

I always liked DC. Like Shirley said, DC made you THINK. (Very difficult for a low IQ individual such as myself).

And yes, my perception is that DC often pulled a "Colbert" on this site.
I have had PM exchanges with DC, and they were always positive, even though it seemed we were locked in battle to the other posters.

[Overlander]

So, Randy ISN'T Lobster?

[TDub]

So, Randy ISN'T Lobster?

Randy has at least some basketball knowledge.....lobster had 0

[BiggDick]

I agree - we should all try to be better regarding personal attacks ( including myself ).
That is, unless you voted for Trump this second time around, then you can fuck right off.

fuck it, I'm not even gonna wait around to see if DC ends up getting it later today instead...


POTD

[BiggDick]

back to DC's post -

for real you guys. the ADL!

Like, the Anti-Defamation League.

As in, the organization whose very mission statement is, "to stop the defamation of the Jewish people and to secure justice and fair treatment to all."

Yea, the ones who are supposed to be fighting antisemitism are now coming out normalizing a dood making nazi salutes!

make it make sense!!!!!!






(I think I CAN make it make sense, but I hesitate to say it)