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Re: an even more frightening perspective

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:35 pm
by twocoach
TDub wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:25 pm when it is known that lithium mining is as bad for the earth as oil drilling, that the battery recycling is (at this point) as much of a scam as plastic recycling,
that our grid still needs oil and coal to charge the electric vehicles .....are we going to go after the electric car execs too?
Don't forget to factor in the environmental, health and economic damages done by oil spills on land and in our waterways worldwide.

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:41 pm
by Deleted User 863
I think you missed his point.

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:53 pm
by ousdahl
the electric car industry is not really meant to save the environment, so much as it is meant to save the car industry.

if we really wanna stop being "bad for the earth," it's gonna take less consumer consumption, and more willing lifestyle changes (maybe it's not sustainable for everyone to drive their own individual vehicle everywhere), and the correlated systemic changes (better public transit, high-speed rail networks, work-remote whenever permitted, walk or bike or other alternative transport options whenever possible)

also prob just a matter of time til, like all our wars over oil, we get wars over lithium too.

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:24 pm
by ousdahl

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:06 pm
by KUTradition
ousdahl wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:24 pm
“We live today in a world of interlocking crises, each illustrating the unwillingness of leaders to act in the true long-term interests of their people,” said Mary Robinson, former president of Ireland and former United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights.

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 3:32 pm
by KUTradition
exxon mobile and shell posting record profits…lol

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 5:08 pm
by dolomite
KUTradition wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 3:32 pm exxon mobile and shell posting record profits…lol
So…. That’s partly one reason why we’re headed for stormier, hotter years ahead.

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 6:10 pm
by Overlander
KUTradition wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 3:32 pm exxon mobile and shell posting record profits…lol
Bidens’ fault

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 9:33 pm
by KUTradition

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:39 pm
by ousdahl
Ohio crews conduct a 'controlled release' of toxic chemicals from derailed train cars

https://www.npr.org/2023/02/06/11547609 ... derailment

Image

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:34 pm
by dolomite
Another reason to have oil transported via safer pipelines. Will the next GOP administration reapprove the Keystone XL?

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 1:07 pm
by ousdahl
actually, the stuff being transported was vinyl chloride, some toxic/carcinogenic chemical that, when burned, also releases/converts to hydrochloric acid

or something.

kinda crazy but it may have been less toxic if it WAS just an oil spill

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 2:54 pm
by KUTradition

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:22 pm
by ChalkRocker
ousdahl wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:53 pm
if we really wanna stop being "bad for the earth," it's gonna take less consumer consumption, and more willing lifestyle changes (maybe it's not sustainable for everyone to drive their own individual vehicle everywhere), and the correlated systemic changes (better public transit, high-speed rail networks, work-remote whenever permitted, walk or bike or other alternative transport options whenever possible)
not wrong, and likely understated, imo

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:48 am
by KUTradition

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 4:04 pm
by ousdahl

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 4:13 pm
by KUTradition
been leaking since November?

smh

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 4:38 pm
by jhawks99
Upstream from Minneapolis, cool

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 5:08 pm
by PhDhawk
jhawks99 wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 4:38 pm Upstream from Minneapolis, cool
Close the Mississippi River, so upstream from....1/3 of the country?

Re: an even more frightening perspective

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:37 am
by ousdahl