Kansas Crimson

Posted: **Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:13 am**

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:09 am Dems are going to kick themselves if they let Warren hand Trump 4 more years in the white house. I do not think she can appeal to enough moderates/unhappy republicans to beat trump.

Meh, that's your opinion. Moderate Dems would certainly choose Warren over Trump.

Unhappy Republicans can sit out and guarantee 4 more years of what they are unhappy with, I guess. It would make as much sense as far right Republicans voting for an incompetent moron just to "show Dems how unhappy they are".

Posted: **Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:15 am**

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:13 am
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:09 am Dems are going to kick themselves if they let Warren hand Trump 4 more years in the white house. I do not think she can appeal to enough moderates/unhappy republicans to beat trump.
Meh, that's your opinion. Moderate Dems would certainly choose Warren over Trump.

Unhappy Republicans can sit out and guarantee 4 more years of what they are unhappy with, I guess. It would make as much sense as far right Republicans voting for an incompetent moron just to "show Dems how unhappy they are".

Hopefully we don't have to find out.

Posted: **Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:17 am**

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:15 am
twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:13 am
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:09 am Dems are going to kick themselves if they let Warren hand Trump 4 more years in the white house. I do not think she can appeal to enough moderates/unhappy republicans to beat trump.
Meh, that's your opinion. Moderate Dems would certainly choose Warren over Trump.

Unhappy Republicans can sit out and guarantee 4 more years of what they are unhappy with, I guess. It would make as much sense as far right Republicans voting for an incompetent moron just to "show Dems how unhappy they are".
Hopefully we don't have to find out.

We get it. You dont like Warren.

Posted: **Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:24 am**

It's not really about who I personally don't like. If you polled republicans to rank the Dems she would be 1 of worst ranked of the bunch. Her far left ideas may force republicans who hate trump to vote for him to avoid her policies.

And ftr on 90% of your posts I could respond "we get it. You don't like trump." So save the smart ass remarks for a time when someone is actually being rude to you.

Posted: **Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:24 am**

There is zero chance ew is our next president. None. Notta.

Posted: **Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:25 am**

Posted: **Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:26 am**

Feral wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:25 am

Looks just like 2016. Polls are just polls.

Posted: **Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:40 am**

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:26 am
Feral wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:25 am
Looks just like 2016. Polls are just polls.

So you say we should do a poll to see how people view Warren but then when you see the poll show values that dont match your point, you dismiss polls. Makes sense.

Posted: **Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:46 am**

I didn't say polls are totally worthless. I said polls are polls. Which is true. There wasn't a single poll in 2016 (that I saw) indicating Trump was going to heat Hillary.

My point was, Warren could force people who don't want to vote for Trump to end up voting for Trump. There are a lot of us middle of the road people (don't identify with either party) who want to vote for a Democrat this time....my guess is she's among the least appealing to those types of people. That was my only point about doing a poll of non Dems rankings of the Dem candidates.

Stop trying to argue every little comment and word choice. It's not worth it for either of us.

Posted: **Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:58 am**

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:46 am I didn't say polls are totally worthless. I said polls are polls. Which is true. There wasn't a single poll in 2016 (that I saw) indicating Trump was going to heat Hillary.

My point was, Warren could force people who don't want to vote for Trump to end up voting for Trump. There are a lot of us middle of the road people (don't identify with either party) who want to vote for a Democrat this time....my guess is she's among the least appealing to those types of people. That was my only point about doing a poll of non Dems rankings of the Dem candidates.

Stop trying to argue every little comment and word choice. It's not worth it for either of us.

Lots of Maybes and Mights for every Dem candidate. A more moderate pick may lose support from the other end of the dem voting public. I sure as shit dont want to vote for Biden.

There is no candidate that will be universally supported by everyone. It's not the goal.

Posted: **Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:00 am**

The goal is to win. Biden won't push voters to Trump. Warren might.....and she might be the only 1 with a real chance that has a negative impact like that on certain voters (how big that segment is I honestly don't know).

I don't think ANY moderate Dem will lose support to the other side because they're not left enough...but that's just my guess, and I'm no expert.

Posted: **Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:18 am**

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:00 am The goal is to win. Biden won't push voters to Trump. Warren might.....and she might be the only 1 with a real chance that has a negative impact like that on certain voters (how big that segment is I honestly don't know).

I don't think ANY moderate Dem will lose support to the other side because they're not left enough...but that's just my guess, and I'm no expert.

Every candidate will lose some votes from some end of the spectrum, either to those who choose the other side or to those who choose not to vote because they dont feel wither choice represents them. You live with it.

There are things that I dont like about the policy points of every single Dem candidate. So be it.

Posted: **Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:21 am**

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:18 am
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:00 am The goal is to win. Biden won't push voters to Trump. Warren might.....and she might be the only 1 with a real chance that has a negative impact like that on certain voters (how big that segment is I honestly don't know).

I don't think ANY moderate Dem will lose support to the other side because they're not left enough...but that's just my guess, and I'm no expert.
Every candidate will lose some votes from some end of the spectrum, either to those who choose the other side or to those who choose not to vote because they dont feel wither choice represents them. You live with it.

I agree. My point is that I think Warren will have a bigger group of those types of voters than any other Dem candidate that has a chance, and that's problematic in this election because much like last time it's going to be CLOSE.

Posted: **Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:25 am**

I get your point. Three times now. You're speculating on a bunch of unprovable points. I too wish there was a perfect candidate. There never is because what would be perfect to me would be unacceptable to others.

Posted: **Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:30 am**

I get your point. Three times now.

Posted: **Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:31 pm**

The segment of the population that ew is targeting is too lazy and too stupid to get off the couch and drag themselves to the polls. She is attempting to gain power by promising everything for free. Unfortunately for her the “give me give me give me” crowd is just too lazy and too stupid.

Posted: **Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:35 pm**

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:31 pm The segment of the population that ew is targeting is too lazy and too stupid to get off the couch and drag themselves to the polls. She is attempting to gain power by promising everything for free. Unfortunately for her the “give me give me give me” crowd is just too lazy and too stupid.

Well ok then.

Posted: **Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:40 pm**

Just go vote for Trump and shut up.

Posted: **Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:42 pm**

I have no intention on voting for dt.

Posted: **Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:46 pm**

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:42 pm I have no intention on voting for dt.

Mich is a Tulsi man, especially since he can't vote for Jill Stein this time around.

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