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Oh man, kinda disappointing, I thought EmployedOusdahl would have a new job, not the same ol' fishing gig.
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Prediction: he'll walk.
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pdub wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 2:49 pm Oh man, kinda disappointing, I thought EmployedOusdahl would have a new job, not the same ol' fishing gig.
it's what i do.

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DCHawk1 wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 2:51 pm Prediction: he'll walk.
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DCHawk1 wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 2:51 pm Prediction: he'll walk.
Eh, I don't know.

3 days to charge is fast, which leads me to believe there's nothing good for him in the rest of the evidence.

Also, unlike in other high profile murder cases, the prosecutor didn't overcharge here. That's key.
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DCHawk1 wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 2:51 pm Prediction: he'll walk.
if so, we’re in for some serious civil unrest
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ousdahl wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 2:11 pm for real.

not that previous cases of cops killing people of color haven't been egregious, but this one just seems particularly so.

I kind of wonder what prosecuting a cop to the fullest extent of the law would do.

but rather than say, "we want to make an example of this one in an attempt to discourage future police brutality," they were still reluctant to even arrest.
Not sure if it was reluctance as much as a desire to be thorough so that you don't screw up and lose the case. It could never happen fast enough from the community's perspective but it could happen too quick from a court's perspective. You miss one little thing that results in the guy walking free on a technicality and the blow back would be out of control.
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I think sadly DC might be correct.
And if so, burn it all down.
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what makes you guys think he’ll walk?

Is there some particular detail?

...besides the fact cops walk for killing people of color all the fucking time...
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TraditionKU wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 3:01 pm
DCHawk1 wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 2:51 pm Prediction: he'll walk.
if so, we’re in for some serious civil unrest
Trump and republicans wettest dream is for him to walk ASAP, before Nov. 3, 2020.
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Now, don't get pissy with me. I'm not saying he should walk. And I'm not saying this is a good excuse. This, in fact, is WHY you don't put your knee on a guy's neck, even if you know it won't choke him to death. Cuz a guy with hypertensive heart disease just might fucking die anyway. I'm just saying that this -- plus a toxicology report, if there's anything in it -- will be an issue.

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Feral wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 3:33 pm
TraditionKU wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 3:01 pm
DCHawk1 wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 2:51 pm Prediction: he'll walk.
if so, we’re in for some serious civil unrest
Trump and republicans wettest dream is for him to walk ASAP, before Nov. 3, 2020.
You really should take a break.
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DCHawk1 wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 3:34 pm Now, don't get pissy with me. I'm not saying he should walk. And I'm not saying this is a good excuse. This, in fact, is WHY you don't put your knee on a guy's neck, even if you know it won't choke him to death. Cuz a guy with hypertensive heart disease just might fucking die anyway. I'm just saying that this -- plus a toxicology report, if there's anything in it -- will be an issue.

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The argument will be he died with chauvin on his neck, not because chauvin was on his neck.

Covid deniers will buy it.
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Rock the fucking house and kick some ass.
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DCHawk1 wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 3:34 pm
Feral wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 3:33 pm
TraditionKU wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 3:01 pm
if so, we’re in for some serious civil unrest
Trump and republicans wettest dream is for him to walk ASAP, before Nov. 3, 2020.
You really should take a break.
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DCHawk1 wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 3:34 pm Now, don't get pissy with me. I'm not saying he should walk. And I'm not saying this is a good excuse. This, in fact, is WHY you don't put your knee on a guy's neck, even if you know it won't choke him to death. Cuz a guy with hypertensive heart disease just might fucking die anyway. I'm just saying that this -- plus a toxicology report, if there's anything in it -- will be an issue.

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Yeah, I just saw that, too. Man, this will be an interesting case for sure.
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ousdahl wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 3:16 pm ...besides the fact cops walk for killing people of color all the fucking time...
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Again, if he walks, just burn it.
Our system needs to be better.
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DCHawk1 wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 3:34 pm
Feral wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 3:33 pm
TraditionKU wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 3:01 pm
if so, we’re in for some serious civil unrest
Trump and republicans wettest dream is for him to walk ASAP, before Nov. 3, 2020.
You really should take a break.
You brought up "medication" earlier, is that fair game now?
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DCHawk1 wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 3:34 pm Now, don't get pissy with me. I'm not saying he should walk. And I'm not saying this is a good excuse. This, in fact, is WHY you don't put your knee on a guy's neck, even if you know it won't choke him to death. Cuz a guy with hypertensive heart disease just might fucking die anyway. I'm just saying that this -- plus a toxicology report, if there's anything in it -- will be an issue.

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Certainly makes factual causation tougher, but prosecutors will find someone pretty easily to tie it together.
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pdub wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 3:40 pm Again, if he walks, just burn it.
Our system needs to be better.
Sure.

Can we start with public-sector unions?
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