Kansas Crimson

I am a libertarian by the way not republican or Democrat. Our 2 party system has failed. But most Republicans at least claim to want to uphold the constitution while democrats like biden and crew openly call it an "outdated piece of paper"

I just think government in general is the problem. We need to reduce government spending taxation regulation in general. But right now we have a very aggressive democratic platform that is actively trying to increase its grip over the American people and I completely hate that and every American should too.

Its the opposite of what this country is supposed to be

You might want to check out what law enforcement agencies are under the IRS umbrella.

randylahey wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 4:10 pm I am a libertarian by the way not republican or Democrat. Our 2 party system has failed. But most Republicans at least claim to want to uphold the constitution while democrats like biden and crew openly call it an "outdated piece of paper"

So very few will vote for Trump if he runs?

so it's just a matter of claiming to uphold the constitution?

something more than lip service might be nice.

randylahey wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 4:13 pm

and yet, if the Founding Fathers really did come back today, one of the biggest things they'd be concerned about is "you freed the WHAT"

randylahey wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 4:11 pm I just think government in general is the problem. We need to reduce government spending taxation regulation in general. But right now we have a very aggressive democratic platform that is actively trying to increase its grip over the American people and I completely hate that and every American should too.

Its the opposite of what this country is supposed to be

specifically what parts of the democratic platform do you consider to be very aggressive?

ousdahl wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:05 pm

randylahey wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 4:11 pm I just think government in general is the problem. We need to reduce government spending taxation regulation in general. But right now we have a very aggressive democratic platform that is actively trying to increase its grip over the American people and I completely hate that and every American should too.

Its the opposite of what this country is supposed to be

specifically what parts of the democratic platform do you consider to be very aggressive?

Wanting to do away with guns and sensoring free speech.

Plus shit like using the school systems to indoctrinate children and teach the things parents don't agree with instead of teaching actual life skills

ousdahl wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:03 pm so it's just a matter of claiming to uphold the constitution?

something more than lip service might be nice.

Its better than openly opposing it. But yes I agree

randylahey wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:14 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:05 pm

randylahey wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 4:11 pm I just think government in general is the problem. We need to reduce government spending taxation regulation in general. But right now we have a very aggressive democratic platform that is actively trying to increase its grip over the American people and I completely hate that and every American should too.

Its the opposite of what this country is supposed to be

specifically what parts of the democratic platform do you consider to be very aggressive?

Wanting to do away with guns and sensoring free speech.

Plus shit like using the school systems to indoctrinate children and teach the things parents don't agree with instead of teaching actual life skills

So you are upset the Dems "want to do away with guns" (which is not true) AND you are upset SOME IRS agents - who actually have a valid reason to have them - have guns?

You accidentally just proved my point. The democrats aren't anti gun. They are anti you having a gun. Their security and agents will always have them

can you point me to the specific policies or initiatives that want to do away with guns?

or free speech? in what ways?

or the indoctrinating children thing?

or opposing the constitution?

and more importantly, is it actual policy initiatives that will realistically pass, or is it mostly just more performative politics?

randylahey wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:58 pm You accidentally just proved my point. The democrats aren't anti gun. They are anti you having a gun. Their security and agents will always have them

as wild as it seems, you and Qusdahl agree here.

you both may have a valid concern about citizens not having guns any more but the police state still having them.

where you two disagree is Qusdahl wants these armed citizens to be educated and organized and engaged in mutual aid and reading political theory and all that shit. You seem to be just advocating for some Merican status quo, which is hardly the same.

also, if Qusdahl DOES wanna take away guns from anyone, it's the cops.

Citizens being able to own guns is essential to this country. It wouldn't exist without that. And yes ous I agree with responsible go ownership. In my family I was taught to responsible own use store and clean firearms. Thats something Americans have taught their kids for generations

right on.

how you feel about defunding the police?

ousdahl wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 6:39 pm right on.

how you feel about defunding the police?

Stupid. Absolutely stupid. Yes we needed to reign in cops. But it shouldn't have surprised anyone that crime skyrocketed in the places that defended them.

But democrats are actually trying to INCREASE police budgets now and pretend democrat run cities never campaigned to defund them

But my political conspiracy was democrats knew defunding police could go poorly and would cause civil unrest and division and thats exactly what they wanting headed into the 2020 election. They somehow convinced people that racism in America was trumps fault. Even tho racism has existed for thousands of years, been in America from the start, and Trump was only resident for 4 years

yea.

The whole dems actually increasing police budgets is among the reasons why Qusdahl says he/him hates dems even more than you. Dude sees dems as the same thing as pubs, but in rainbow. Both parties primarily serve the moneyed interests, more so than the people.

and, here's the thing: can you point to where police budgets are correlated with crime rates?

Cuz Q insists crime is really not that correlated with policing, but more so with things like economic opportunities and housing and social services and other systemic issues yet.