Kansas Crimson

randylahey wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:58 pm You accidentally just proved my point. The democrats aren't anti gun. They are anti you having a gun. Their security and agents will always have them

randylahey wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:14 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:05 pm

randylahey wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 4:11 pm I just think government in general is the problem. We need to reduce government spending taxation regulation in general. But right now we have a very aggressive democratic platform that is actively trying to increase its grip over the American people and I completely hate that and every American should too.

Its the opposite of what this country is supposed to be

specifically what parts of the democratic platform do you consider to be very aggressive?

Wanting to do away with guns and sensoring free speech.

Plus shit like using the school systems to indoctrinate children and teach the things parents don't agree with instead of teaching actual life skills

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:02 pm

randylahey wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:58 pm You accidentally just proved my point. The democrats aren't anti gun. They are anti you having a gun. Their security and agents will always have them

I didn't accidentally do anything in my post. The Dems aren't "anti you having a gun". They are "anti" assholes (and non-assholes) being able to get guns easier than it is to get a driver's license - and "anti" people having the ability to possess certain guns that are 100% unnecessary for CIVILIANS to own.
What little sanity I have makes me believe anyone would have to be a complete piece of shit human being not to be "anti" that.
I say that as someone who had a friend shot by an asshole who had easy access to an assault weapon and a women I knew was killed at the same FOURTH OF JULY PARADE.
At work I spoke with a summer intern who was a student at Stoneman Douglas and she watched her classmates die because some asshole had easy access to an assault gun.
I'm the guy who found his best friend dead in his apartment riddled with bullet holes in his body.
You're God damned right I want stricter gun laws. Fuck those who don't!

randylahey wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:18 pm Most illegal firearms and other weapons (as well as drugs, human traffickin) all come into the US through the southern border. Through the cartel. You'd think if biden and company truly cared about those issues that he would put some emphasis on trying to secure our southern border?

Instead of not just ignoring that issue but opposing it. And instead spending billions of dollars in taxpayers money to secure Ukraines borders instead

randylahey wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:13 pm

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:02 pm

randylahey wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:58 pm You accidentally just proved my point. The democrats aren't anti gun. They are anti you having a gun. Their security and agents will always have them

I didn't accidentally do anything in my post. The Dems aren't "anti you having a gun". They are "anti" assholes (and non-assholes) being able to get guns easier than it is to get a driver's license - and "anti" people having the ability to possess certain guns that are 100% unnecessary for CIVILIANS to own.
What little sanity I have makes me believe anyone would have to be a complete piece of shit human being not to be "anti" that.
I say that as someone who had a friend shot by an asshole who had easy access to an assault weapon and a women I knew was killed at the same FOURTH OF JULY PARADE.
At work I spoke with a summer intern who was a student at Stoneman Douglas and she watched her classmates die because some asshole had easy access to an assault gun.
I'm the guy who found his best friend dead in his apartment riddled with bullet holes in his body.
You're God damned right I want stricter gun laws. Fuck those who don't!

Sorry for your loses. Still doesn't make the 2a any less important. Murder is illegal. They did it anyways. Stricter guns laws will only take guns away from law abiding citizens. People that don't follow the laws will still finds way to get those guns you don't like

The main point of the 2a is to protect people for a tyrannical government. That is just as important now as it was in 1776

randylahey wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 6:34 pm Citizens being able to own guns is essential to this country.

defixione wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:29 pm Assault rifles vs military drones. Who are you betting on?

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:34 pm

randylahey wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:13 pm

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:02 pm

I didn't accidentally do anything in my post. The Dems aren't "anti you having a gun". They are "anti" assholes (and non-assholes) being able to get guns easier than it is to get a driver's license - and "anti" people having the ability to possess certain guns that are 100% unnecessary for CIVILIANS to own.
What little sanity I have makes me believe anyone would have to be a complete piece of shit human being not to be "anti" that.
I say that as someone who had a friend shot by an asshole who had easy access to an assault weapon and a women I knew was killed at the same FOURTH OF JULY PARADE.
At work I spoke with a summer intern who was a student at Stoneman Douglas and she watched her classmates die because some asshole had easy access to an assault gun.
I'm the guy who found his best friend dead in his apartment riddled with bullet holes in his body.
You're God damned right I want stricter gun laws. Fuck those who don't!

Sorry for your loses. Still doesn't make the 2a any less important. Murder is illegal. They did it anyways. Stricter guns laws will only take guns away from law abiding citizens. People that don't follow the laws will still finds way to get those guns you don't like

The main point of the 2a is to protect people for a tyrannical government. That is just as important now as it was in 1776

I sincerely appreciate you saying you're sorry. I don't disagree that the 2nd Amendment is important.
I don't feel LAW ABIDING citizens should have their guns taken away. I do feel differently when it comes to excessive "assault weapons" and civilians possessing them - but that's a whole other much more complicated/complex conundrum - for me.
To the best of my knowledge very few if any Democratic law makers want law abiding citizens to have their right/s to own guns taken away nor have their guns taken away. Those who do, I would disagree with them.
I know I have been harsh and opinionated towards you but please understand it's more the subject and much less you personally that I have a hard time with.

Overlander wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:44 pm

randylahey wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 6:34 pm Citizens being able to own guns is essential to this country.

So much stupid here

randylahey wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:58 pm You accidentally just proved my point. The democrats aren't anti gun. They are anti you having a gun. Their security and agents will always have them

ousdahl wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:38 pm I dunno if 2A is necessarily as simple as “protect people from a tyrannical gummint”

It’s about the security of a free state.

Cuz if it’s about not letting gummint get tyrannical, then how come so many among the 2A crowd are also so cool with one taxpayer-funded blank check after another for the MIC and the police?

randylahey wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:54 pm Why do people think criminals obey laws? It blows my mind. Especially the kind of criminals willing to break laws as serious as murder. Changing gun laws will do nothing.

Except make it so the bad guys have a lot more powerful weapons than the good guys

ousdahl wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:20 pm

randylahey wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:54 pm Why do people think criminals obey laws? It blows my mind. Especially the kind of criminals willing to break laws as serious as murder. Changing gun laws will do nothing.

Except make it so the bad guys have a lot more powerful weapons than the good guys

Right, not obeying laws is exactly what criminals do

So how do we create communities with fewer criminals?

zsn wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:31 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:38 pm I dunno if 2A is necessarily as simple as “protect people from a tyrannical gummint”

It’s about the security of a free state.

Cuz if it’s about not letting gummint get tyrannical, then how come so many among the 2A crowd are also so cool with one taxpayer-funded blank check after another for the MIC and the police?

Yes, this. 2A is an anachronism as is “quartering of soldiers”. Besides it’s a corrupt and inept SC which incorrectly decided it’s an individual right.

I’m actually more scared of randy and his 2A crowd than any apocryphal tyrannical government (Jan 6, anyone?). So maybe that’s who I need to defend myself against!