Kansas Crimson

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:08 amWhat facts?

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:30 am i'll start:

as it pertains to the illegals. as they scurry across in the dead of night. catch em. place them in a giant catapault. fling them back to where they came.

Overlander wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:31 am

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:30 am i'll start:

as it pertains to the illegals. as they scurry across in the dead of night. catch em. place them in a giant catapault. fling them back to where they came.

So clever.

Back2Lawrence wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:33 am

Overlander wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:31 am

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:30 am i'll start:

as it pertains to the illegals. as they scurry across in the dead of night. catch em. place them in a giant catapault. fling them back to where they came.

So clever.

I wish we could do this with all the KU parents when they invade Lawrence each fall (and other times)

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:26 am I don’t expect everyone to agree with me, and I don’t think I’m particularly intelligent, nor wise.

If I was looking for an echo chamber, I would go seek some niche sub on Reddit or something. But I’m not!

The thing is, I do enjoy diverse and varying perspectives.

I just wish we could, like, discuss immigration without devolving into Putin parrot antagonism, which I consider to be trolling and have repeatedly requested a refrain from as much.

And even more generally, I wish we could do this without the petty personal attacks.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 3:02 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:52 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:19 pm

my point is that Dems and pubs both keep creeping further and further right about so many issues, and rather than be cognizant of it, so many otherwise-decent posters here would rather keep bickering along partisan lines. you know, that illustration when one fish turns to the other and asks, "what water?"

initiatives like suspending border asylum seems xenophobic, cruel, and at odds with the values upon which our nation was (supposedly) founded - regardless of whether it's dems or pubs doing it.

Dems having and enforcing a policy on immigration isn't "creeping further and further to the right" unless you go by the GOP horseshit narrative that what the Dems want is a wide open border. Which is of course complete bullshit.

yea, the GOP narrative that what the dems want is a wide open border is horseshit, indeed. And complete bullshit. It's a whole barnyard full of shit!

Dems are suspending asylum. And capitulating to the maga battle cry to Build! The! Wall! And waiving environmental regs to do so.

That's the sort of stuff that, as recently as last election cycle, was considered "further to the right" than dems were expected to go.

And yet, here we are.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:30 am i'll start:

as it pertains to the illegals. as they scurry across in the dead of night. catch em. place them in a giant catapault. fling them back to where they came.

KUTradition wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:28 am back to non-childish things…

https://newrepublic.com/article/184507/ ... ation-data

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:18 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 3:02 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:52 pm

Dems having and enforcing a policy on immigration isn't "creeping further and further to the right" unless you go by the GOP horseshit narrative that what the Dems want is a wide open border. Which is of course complete bullshit.

yea, the GOP narrative that what the dems want is a wide open border is horseshit, indeed. And complete bullshit. It's a whole barnyard full of shit!

Dems are suspending asylum. And capitulating to the maga battle cry to Build! The! Wall! And waiving environmental regs to do so.

That's the sort of stuff that, as recently as last election cycle, was considered "further to the right" than dems were expected to go.

And yet, here we are.

"Dems are suspending asylum. "

That, of course, is not true. As per usual, there is way more to it than your simpleton statement.

"Under this order:

Migrants who cross without authorization — absent exceptional circumstances — would not be eligible for asylum, and subject to expdited removal.

The new rule raises the threshold to grant an asylum hearing based on a credible fear claim, that is when a migrant manifests fear of prosecution or torture in their native country or country of removal.

The restrictions will remain in place until 14 days after the seven-day average of illegal crossings drops below 1,500. The measures will go back into effect once the number reaches 2,500."

https://www.npr.org/2024/06/04/nx-s1-49 ... %202%2C500.

It is not just "suspended" as if no one is getting granted asylum. More than a thousand people PER DAY are granted the opportunity to apply for asylum.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:25 am Twocoach, fair enough.

“Suspended” wasn’t a good word for that. I thought of that as soon as I posted, and figured someone would catch it, so good catch.

“Limited” or “restricted” or something prob a better term.

Either way, human rights organizations aren’t pleased. And still seemingly at odds with our nation’s values

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:23 am

KUTradition wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:28 am back to non-childish things…

https://newrepublic.com/article/184507/ ... ation-data

Hopefully Oussie actually READS that, along with the White House press release from last December linked within it.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-roo ... -mexico-2/