Kansas Crimson

Sparko wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:45 pm He was sitting down too

TDub wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 10:22 am

Sparko wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:45 pm He was sitting down too

hmm I thought we weren't allowed to make fun of people for anything anymore. Did that change?

Shirley wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:18 am Visionary? Yes.

Emotionally disturbed? Yes.

Bigot? Yes.

Business person? Sometimes.

In 2019 Musk claimed that Tesla would have one million robotaxis on the road by the end of 2020; Tesla owners, he said, could make up to $30,000 a year while they slept by allowing their cars to moonlight as driverless taxis.

Elon Musk's self-driving-car project is on a road to nowhere

3/29/23 Elon Musk has spent much of the last decade assuring and reassuring customers and investors that driverless Teslas are right around the corner. Spoiler alert: You still can't take a snooze at the wheel or watch Netflix in traffic.

There was the press conference in 2016 when Musk predicted that Tesla would send a car from Los Angeles to New York City without human input by the following year. Then in 2019, he said he felt "very confident" that, by 2020, Tesla owners who bought the pricey Full Self-Driving option would be able to dispatch their cars as robotaxis and rake in passive income from their couches.

"Today it's financially insane to buy anything other than a Tesla," Musk said at an event touting the carmaker's autonomous-vehicle development in 2019. "It'll be like owning a horse in three years."

That revolutionary software update never came, and by 2022 the goalpost for bringing self-driving cars to the masses had shifted to 2023. Meanwhile, Musk has doubled down on the importance of driverless tech, going so far as to say the carmaker will be "worth basically zero" if it can't crack autonomous driving. Over the years, Tesla has hiked the price of Full Self-Driving to a whopping $15,000.

[...]

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:06 pm

Shirley wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:18 am Visionary? Yes.

Emotionally disturbed? Yes.

Bigot? Yes.

Business person? Sometimes.

In 2019 Musk claimed that Tesla would have one million robotaxis on the road by the end of 2020; Tesla owners, he said, could make up to $30,000 a year while they slept by allowing their cars to moonlight as driverless taxis.

Elon Musk's self-driving-car project is on a road to nowhere

3/29/23 Elon Musk has spent much of the last decade assuring and reassuring customers and investors that driverless Teslas are right around the corner. Spoiler alert: You still can't take a snooze at the wheel or watch Netflix in traffic.

There was the press conference in 2016 when Musk predicted that Tesla would send a car from Los Angeles to New York City without human input by the following year. Then in 2019, he said he felt "very confident" that, by 2020, Tesla owners who bought the pricey Full Self-Driving option would be able to dispatch their cars as robotaxis and rake in passive income from their couches.

"Today it's financially insane to buy anything other than a Tesla," Musk said at an event touting the carmaker's autonomous-vehicle development in 2019. "It'll be like owning a horse in three years."

That revolutionary software update never came, and by 2022 the goalpost for bringing self-driving cars to the masses had shifted to 2023. Meanwhile, Musk has doubled down on the importance of driverless tech, going so far as to say the carmaker will be "worth basically zero" if it can't crack autonomous driving. Over the years, Tesla has hiked the price of Full Self-Driving to a whopping $15,000.

[...]

So Musk is basically just a mediocre sci-fi writer. He tells lots of exciting stories about how his futuristic cars might be used some time in the future. When you don't base those stories on information that leads you to believe that these advances are attainable, you're just a story teller. He's all concept.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:07 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:06 pm

Shirley wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:18 am Visionary? Yes.

Emotionally disturbed? Yes.

Bigot? Yes.

Business person? Sometimes.

In 2019 Musk claimed that Tesla would have one million robotaxis on the road by the end of 2020; Tesla owners, he said, could make up to $30,000 a year while they slept by allowing their cars to moonlight as driverless taxis.

Elon Musk's self-driving-car project is on a road to nowhere

3/29/23 Elon Musk has spent much of the last decade assuring and reassuring customers and investors that driverless Teslas are right around the corner. Spoiler alert: You still can't take a snooze at the wheel or watch Netflix in traffic.

There was the press conference in 2016 when Musk predicted that Tesla would send a car from Los Angeles to New York City without human input by the following year. Then in 2019, he said he felt "very confident" that, by 2020, Tesla owners who bought the pricey Full Self-Driving option would be able to dispatch their cars as robotaxis and rake in passive income from their couches.

"Today it's financially insane to buy anything other than a Tesla," Musk said at an event touting the carmaker's autonomous-vehicle development in 2019. "It'll be like owning a horse in three years."

That revolutionary software update never came, and by 2022 the goalpost for bringing self-driving cars to the masses had shifted to 2023. Meanwhile, Musk has doubled down on the importance of driverless tech, going so far as to say the carmaker will be "worth basically zero" if it can't crack autonomous driving. Over the years, Tesla has hiked the price of Full Self-Driving to a whopping $15,000.

[...]

So Musk is basically just a mediocre sci-fi writer. He tells lots of exciting stories about how his futuristic cars might be used some time in the future. When you don't base those stories on information that leads you to believe that these advances are attainable, you're just a story teller. He's all concept.

You can see the through-line to the "I was right about [x]" mealy-mouthed nonsense that the Randies of the world bring to the table.

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:20 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:07 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:06 pm

So Musk is basically just a mediocre sci-fi writer. He tells lots of exciting stories about how his futuristic cars might be used some time in the future. When you don't base those stories on information that leads you to believe that these advances are attainable, you're just a story teller. He's all concept.

You can see the through-line to the "I was right about [x]" mealy-mouthed nonsense that the Randies of the world bring to the table.

Yep. If you parrot 10,000 stupid things that other people say, one of them is still bound to happen as stupid things occasionally do still happen. It doesn't make you smart or well informed.

Sparko wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2024 2:16 pm Tweets the oligarchs who manage managers

ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2024 5:54 pm Perhaps "managerial class" is a telling way to phrase it.

Meta Platforms Inc. CEO Mark Zuckerberg is reportedly constructing an extensive compound in Kauai, Hawaii, featuring a unique blend of luxury and survivalist elements. The compound, known as Koolau Ranch, is set to include a 5,000-square-foot underground bunker, complete with its own energy and food supplies. The bunker’s design incorporates a metal door filled with concrete, a feature commonly found in bunkers and bomb shelters.

The project, which reflects a growing trend among Silicon Valley elites for preparedness and luxury, is estimated to cost around $100 million to build on top of the $170 million spent acquiring the land. This brings the total investment to approximately $270 million, according to Wired.

The project has been shrouded in secrecy since the beginning. Workers on the ranch are required to sign strict nondisclosure agreements, and reports indicate people have been fired for posting on social media that they are working on the project. Workers on the compound undergo constant surveillance from hundreds of cameras, and military-style security measures have been implemented across the ranch.

The methods to acquire the land also give rise to issues and speculation. Zuckerberg initially hid the purchases of land using shell companies and brokers to disguise them. Those shell companies are now involved in several lawsuits claiming they pressured locals with ancestral land rights to sell the land or get into a bidding war at auction with one of the richest men in the world.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2024 5:54 pm Perhaps "managerial class" is a telling way to phrase it.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 2:11 pm

Meta Platforms Inc. CEO Mark Zuckerberg is reportedly constructing an extensive compound in Kauai, Hawaii, featuring a unique blend of luxury and survivalist elements. The compound, known as Koolau Ranch, is set to include a 5,000-square-foot underground bunker, complete with its own energy and food supplies. The bunker’s design incorporates a metal door filled with concrete, a feature commonly found in bunkers and bomb shelters.

The project, which reflects a growing trend among Silicon Valley elites for preparedness and luxury, is estimated to cost around $100 million to build on top of the $170 million spent acquiring the land. This brings the total investment to approximately $270 million, according to Wired.

The project has been shrouded in secrecy since the beginning. Workers on the ranch are required to sign strict nondisclosure agreements, and reports indicate people have been fired for posting on social media that they are working on the project. Workers on the compound undergo constant surveillance from hundreds of cameras, and military-style security measures have been implemented across the ranch.

The methods to acquire the land also give rise to issues and speculation. Zuckerberg initially hid the purchases of land using shell companies and brokers to disguise them. Those shell companies are now involved in several lawsuits claiming they pressured locals with ancestral land rights to sell the land or get into a bidding war at auction with one of the richest men in the world.