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Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 2:11 pm
by ousdahl
yea.

A lot will ride on McC's ability to run the point.

I think Dajuan is an effective piece, but also has his limitations, so inevitably will be able to play only so many minutes.

If McC's already in the lineup, sliding him over to run the offense (thus potentially freeing minutes for a scorer like Grady or Yes or maybe Rice or whatever) might be a more effective move than subbing Dajuan for a bench guy who may also struggle to score (Bobby)

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 2:37 pm
by hasbeen
I remember the Providence coach saying they watched the tape of Jalen rebounding and pushing the ball and thinking he was faster than a lot of the point guards they played. With him, Juan, Dick, KM, and KJ playing outside/wing, I'm excited to see if they play even faster than last year. They're going to be monstrous on defense.

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 3:11 pm
by AlOerter
I'm still thinking Pettiford could be an x-factor coming off the bench or when match-ups dictate more quickness on the perimeter.

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 3:18 pm
by hasbeen
Agreed. Just gotta beat out KJ on the wing.

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 3:34 pm
by ousdahl
would you guys say Pettiford will be better in that role than Yes?

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 3:36 pm
by KUTradition
i think we’ve seen what Yes can bring

i think we’ve only scratched the surface of Bobby’s potential

i also don’t think they are necessarily competing for the same roles or minutes

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 3:37 pm
by AlOerter
I like Yes. It's tough to say but I think Pettiford may be a little more physical.

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 3:46 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
I think both Yesufu and Pettiford can show a lot more here.

Problem is if we ever actually see it. Yesufu apparently can't play on the ball, so uh, that's pretty limiting. Pettiford can't stay healthy and his shot needs a boatload of work.

We'll see what happens but they've both have been recruited over already, it seems.

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 3:50 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
Right now, I think we'd be fine with a final rotation of:

Clemence
Wilson
McCullar
Dick
Harris

Adams
Rice
Udeh


Pettiford, Yesufu, and Cuffe could go down as swings and misses. That's ok.

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 3:53 pm
by AlOerter
Seems like we have a glut of small guards.

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 3:53 pm
by TDub
ousdahl wrote: Wed Sep 14, 2022 12:40 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Wed Sep 14, 2022 12:09 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:25 am CB and Och absolutely destroyed you. National Champs. First Round.
CB ruined Q. He hasn't been the same since. On any parts of the bored.

None of those evals were very accurate. If Moss was an NBA prospect then 97% of our scholarship players are also.
yea, rumor has it Haunkey Taunk is the one who made Qusdahl to read the Communist Manifesto.

but, come on bro, let's face it: my 2021 eval of CB was entirely too accurate. That's what pissed you guys off so much! You didn't want to acknowledge how prone he was to stinker performances featuring timid offense and getting roasted on D, cuz you were determined to luv the good keed from western KS regardless.

The only thing I was that wrong about, was that he'd develop as much as he did. But to be fair, no one else thought that either! At the end of the day, most of you roibois were just happy enough that he didn't have any ink.
1. This is a pretty damn pathetic post.

2. BofH was an arrogant, generally pig headed, mostly shitty, poster who thought he was amazing. I'm not entirely sure why you've grasped onto his styles as your go to evaluation techniques. I know I know, the laughs....but....no.

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 3:54 pm
by Deleted User 863
ousdahl wrote: Wed Sep 14, 2022 12:40 pm but, come on bro, let's face it: my 2021 eval of CB was entirely too accurate. That's what pissed you guys off so much! You didn't want to acknowledge how prone he was to stinker performances featuring timid offense and getting roasted on D, cuz you were determined to luv the good keed from western KS regardless.
Doubled down on the dumb. Shocker.

I am not from Western Kansas so I am not determined to love kids from Western Kansas.

You were just wrong about pretty much every prediction you made at this time last year. CB Och JCL DMac DH Yes. Literally every single one of them. It is hard to be that wrong.

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 3:57 pm
by UnholyLivingDead
No doubt I'm going to regret throwing my hat in this ring but: Burlington is western KS?

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 3:58 pm
by Deleted User 863
twocoach wrote: Wed Sep 14, 2022 12:35 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:51 am
twocoach wrote: Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:10 am
Every guy you mentioned transferred into a lesser role at KU.

McCullar is not transferring into a lesser role. Apples and oranges.
We didn't think several of those guys mentioned were transferring into the role they ended up playing in August/September of those seasons either.

I think McCullar is absolutely transferring into a different role than he had at TT. And offensively, by default, it's very likely to be a lesser role compared to his role at TT.
McCullar was the third leading scorer at Texas Tech in each of the last 2 seasons. I don't see him being less than that this season.
Jalen and Gradey are almost guaranteed to score more than him.

And there are at least 2 or 3 other guys that are capable of scoring more the McCullar this year. Scoring/shooting is the weakest part of his game.

I think 8ppg is entirely realistic floor for him this season. That'd probably put him 5th or worse in scoring.

But it's a wild guess at this point. He could play 35min a game, and then 2 or 3 of those guys could play less minutes than I anticipate, which would make 3rd leading scorer a reachable ceiling for him.

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 3:59 pm
by ousdahl
UnholyLivingDead wrote: Wed Sep 14, 2022 3:57 pm No doubt I'm going to regret throwing my hat in this ring but: Burlington is western KS?
yea. Didn't the boreds establish this a long time ago?

anything past Iowa St is Western KS.

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 4:00 pm
by TDub
yea, thats another sticking point. But Q isn't great with reality...particularly once he gets his heels dug in.

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 4:01 pm
by Deleted User 863
ousdahl wrote: Wed Sep 14, 2022 1:25 pm In the context of this thread:

Are we cool with Kevin getting big minutes for his D, if it’s at the expense of Gradey and his shooting?
Why would it be at the expense of Gradey? They are fully capable of playing together.

You're really bad at this.

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 4:03 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
AlOerter wrote: Wed Sep 14, 2022 3:53 pm Seems like we have a glut of small guards.
With Dajuan Harris being the most playable. Hmm.

Self obviously has a great track record with those type of guys, though. We'll see how it goes.

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 4:04 pm
by Deleted User 863
ousdahl wrote: Wed Sep 14, 2022 2:11 pm yea.

A lot will ride on McC's ability to run the point.
No it won't.

We have DH (and Yes/Bobby). And we have Jalen who also is fully capable of initiating offense in the half court.

If McCullar learns the offense fast enough to play minutes at the PG spot then that is a bonus.

Pretty much EVERYTHING with McCullar rides on his defense. Not shooting. Not playing PG. Not being 3rd leading scorer.

Keep swinging slugger!

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 4:05 pm
by ousdahl
TDub wrote: Wed Sep 14, 2022 3:53 pm
ousdahl wrote: Wed Sep 14, 2022 12:40 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Wed Sep 14, 2022 12:09 pm

CB ruined Q. He hasn't been the same since. On any parts of the bored.

None of those evals were very accurate. If Moss was an NBA prospect then 97% of our scholarship players are also.
yea, rumor has it Haunkey Taunk is the one who made Qusdahl to read the Communist Manifesto.

but, come on bro, let's face it: my 2021 eval of CB was entirely too accurate. That's what pissed you guys off so much! You didn't want to acknowledge how prone he was to stinker performances featuring timid offense and getting roasted on D, cuz you were determined to luv the good keed from western KS regardless.

The only thing I was that wrong about, was that he'd develop as much as he did. But to be fair, no one else thought that either! At the end of the day, most of you roibois were just happy enough that he didn't have any ink.
1. This is a pretty damn pathetic post.

2. BofH was an arrogant, generally pig headed, mostly shitty, poster who thought he was amazing. I'm not entirely sure why you've grasped onto his styles as your go to evaluation techniques. I know I know, the laughs....but....no.
you're a lot more fun when you aren't putting so much energy into petty personal putdowns.