PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 12:58 pm
The numbers are going down. I hope the worst is behind us, and I think it is. The vaccines continue to work. The downward trend in infections, hospitalizations, and deaths would speed up if more people were vaccinated.
But being on the downward side of this pandemic has nothing to do with whether Americans are done with it or not.
I'm pretty sure American's "being done with this bullshit" made the most recent delta spike worse than it needed to be.
Going to be a solid 2 years (or more) before a complete return to "normal." Of course some things will be changed forever.
Several countries are dropping their quarantine requirements for the vaccinated in time for the holiday season. Should feel pretty normal-y this summer.
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 12:58 pm
The numbers are going down. I hope the worst is behind us, and I think it is. The vaccines continue to work. The downward trend in infections, hospitalizations, and deaths would speed up if more people were vaccinated.
But being on the downward side of this pandemic has nothing to do with whether Americans are done with it or not.
I'm pretty sure American's "being done with this bullshit" made the most recent delta spike worse than it needed to be.
Going to be a solid 2 years (or more) before a complete return to "normal." Of course some things will be changed forever.
Several countries are dropping their quarantine requirements for the vaccinated in time for the holiday season. Should feel pretty normal-y this summer.
There aren't too many things I do differently right now, I wear a mask when in public places but that's about it. I haven't been restricting myself in other ways, but I'm also not living in a place where I'd be doing a ton of shit like going to games. But I'd most likely just mask up and go.
The people who act like wearing a mask is a problem might be the biggest snowflakes since snowflakes became an insult.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:09 pm
by zsn
randylahey wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:01 am
100,000 maskless fans storm the field. Looks like the pandemic is over boys
In other news, we have approximately 100,000 new entries for about 1000 Awards in the Darwin Awards sweepstakes
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 12:58 pm
The numbers are going down. I hope the worst is behind us, and I think it is. The vaccines continue to work. The downward trend in infections, hospitalizations, and deaths would speed up if more people were vaccinated.
But being on the downward side of this pandemic has nothing to do with whether Americans are done with it or not.
I'm pretty sure American's "being done with this bullshit" made the most recent delta spike worse than it needed to be.
Going to be a solid 2 years (or more) before a complete return to "normal." Of course some things will be changed forever.
Several countries are dropping their quarantine requirements for the vaccinated in time for the holiday season. Should feel pretty normal-y this summer.
There aren't too many things I do differently right now, I wear a mask when in public places but that's about it. I haven't been restricting myself in other ways, but I'm also not living in a place where I'd be doing a ton of shit like going to games. But I'd most likely just mask up and go.
The people who act like wearing a mask is a problem might be the biggest snowflakes since snowflakes became an insult.
Completely owned by a piece of cloth, it's hilarious.
I agree with you on day-to-day. I'll feel all the way normal when I'm not wondering if travel, conference, gathering/event/wedding, etc. aren't going to be canceled/postponed at any time. And things like Zoom hearings/depositions are no longer the norm, and everyone is shaking hands again. Don't care about mask mandates.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:11 pm
by MICHHAWK
i'm fully vaxxed. unless they bring back the mask mandate, i am all done wearing the mask.
but, that won't be a problem here in MICHIGAN as governor whitmer is up for re-election in 2022. no way she risks it in an election year.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:55 pm
by ousdahl
Yeah, potentially getting kidnapped again might really interfere with her campaign schedule.
FBI has a history of failure in the great state of Michigan doesnt it White Boy Rick?
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:10 pm
by Deleted User 89
randylahey wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 12:40 pm
Its not evidence of anything except that Americans are done with the bullshit. Only pandemic we are in is a pandemic of willful ignorance.
you’re welcome
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:35 pm
by Deleted User 887
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:11 pm
i'm fully vaxxed. unless they bring back the mask mandate, i am all done wearing the mask.
but, that won't be a problem here in MICHIGAN as governor whitmer is up for re-election in 2022. no way she risks it in an election year.
I'm sure the Wolverine Watchmen or any other of many whack job "cults" in Michigan will take care of her if she wins and institutes a new mask mandate. Right?
...researchers characterised the magnitude and specificity of SARS-CoV-2 spike-reactive antibodies from 10 acutely infected health care workers and 23 participants who received mRNA-based SARS-CoV-2 vaccines.
They found that infection and primary mRNA vaccination elicited S1 and S2-reactive antibodies, while secondary vaccination boosted mostly S1 antibodies. Using magnetic bead-based absorption assays, they found that SARS-CoV-2 infections elicited a large proportion of original antigenic sin-like antibodies that bound efficiently to common seasonal human coronaviruses but poorly to SARS-CoV-2. In converse, vaccination only modestly boosted antibodies reactive to common seasonal human coronaviruses and these antibodies bound efficiently to SARS-CoV-2.
These data indicate that SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccinations elicit fundamentally different antibody responses compared to SARS-CoV-2 infections.
FBI has a history of failure in the great state of Michigan doesnt it White Boy Rick?
So, either there was a sizable conspiracy that predates COVID for the FBI to entrap dozens of people across multiple states to kidnap governors, OR
a criminal defendant is putting forth a crackpot theory in an attempt to obtain a vast amount of cell phone data to try to prove said theory and avoid jail time.
FBI has a history of failure in the great state of Michigan doesnt it White Boy Rick?
So, either there was a sizable conspiracy that predates COVID for the FBI to entrap dozens of people across multiple states to kidnap governors, OR
a criminal defendant is putting forth a crackpot theory in an attempt to obtain a vast amount of cell phone data to try to prove said theory and avoid jail time.
We'll see how it plays out.
look, its not often I get to throw White Boy Rick into the conversation....
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:41 pm
by Deleted User 89
from the Atlantic:
... Except that this past year, things were different: During the 2020–21 flu season, the United States recorded only about 2,000 cases, 17,000 times fewer than the 35 million it recorded the season before. That season, the flu killed 199 children; this past season, as far as we know, it killed one.
...
For this, perversely, we can thank the pandemic. The coronavirus itself may have played some role—infection could produce a general immune response that would also confer protection against the flu—but most of the epidemiologists I spoke with instead emphasized the importance of the behavioral changes adopted to slow the spread of the coronavirus: masking, distancing, remote learning, working from home, limiting indoor social gatherings. Despite the inconsistency with which America deployed them, these measures helped tamp down the spread of the virus, but they completely crushed influenza, a less transmissible foe to which the population has considerable preexisting immunity. We set out to flatten the curve, and we ended up stamping out the flu...
but by all means, mich, go back to you pre-covid ways