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Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:30 am
by jfish26
Grandma wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:22 am
jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:11 am
Grandma wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:03 am
"So?" What?
1) So let's dance!
2) What does it matter, in terms of the point of the post, that Lawrence pulled the page because of direct NCAA intervention, versus the intervention of a university office that exists solely because of stupid NCAA rules?
A University's compliance department exists "solely because of stupid NCAA rules"?
Hmmm. I learned something new today. Thank you!
https://kuathletics.com/sports/compliance/
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:34 am
by NDballer13
Grandma wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:22 am
jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:11 am
Grandma wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:03 am
"So?" What?
1) So let's dance!
2) What does it matter, in terms of the point of the post, that Lawrence pulled the page because of direct NCAA intervention, versus the intervention of a university office that exists solely because of stupid NCAA rules?
A University's compliance department exists "solely because of stupid NCAA rules"?
Hmmm. I learned something new today. Thank you!
What did you think a compliance department existed for??
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:53 am
by Deleted User 289
jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:30 am
Grandma wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:22 am
jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:11 am
1) So let's dance!
2) What does it matter, in terms of the point of the post, that Lawrence pulled the page because of direct NCAA intervention, versus the intervention of a university office that exists solely because of stupid NCAA rules?
A University's compliance department exists "solely because of stupid NCAA rules"?
Hmmm. I learned something new today. Thank you!
https://kuathletics.com/sports/compliance/
"So"?
https://www.clemson.edu/administration/compliance/
I'll spare you the 10 seconds. Yes, I understand school's have different compliance facets.
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:09 am
by jfish26
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:19 am
by ousdahl
integrity. good faith. due process. efficient manner without delay. lulz.
Values:
We believe that each person who accesses compliance services should be treated with respect and courtesy.
We believe that the compliance services staff is a team of professionals that provide Clemson with a valuable service. Because of the nature of the work within compliance services, our team members are committed to professional conduct with the highest degree of integrity and good faith, conducting their work within the strictest confidence and conscious of due process for those they serve.
We believe that our service should be provided in an efficient manner and without delay.
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:26 am
by jfish26
ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:19 am
integrity. good faith. due process. efficient manner without delay. lulz.
Values:
We believe that each person who accesses compliance services should be treated with respect and courtesy.
We believe that the compliance services staff is a team of professionals that provide Clemson with a valuable service. Because of the nature of the work within compliance services, our team members are committed to professional conduct with the highest degree of integrity and good faith, conducting their work within the strictest confidence and conscious of due process for those they serve.
We believe that our service should be provided in an efficient manner and without delay.
Being, keeping the ath-o-letes eligible to perform grossly-underpaid labor.
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:27 am
by Deleted User 289
I said I would spare you the 10 seconds but it seems the lawyer in you just couldn't help yourself.
That's ok, I'll give you the satisfaction of feeling you have jfished me.
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:29 am
by ousdahl
That looks like a solid jfish that smacks her in the face.
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:32 am
by Cascadia
That needs to be fish’s avatar
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:26 pm
by jfish26
NCAA council pushing forward on name-image-likeness issue despite COVID-19 pandemic
https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/20 ... s-pandemic
With college sports on hold because of the COVID-19 pandemic, it would not have been surprising for the NCAA to delay its timeline for proposing new bylaws on name, image and likeness — especially considering how slow-moving the road to change has been already.
But NCAA Division I Council chair M. Grace Calhoun said Tuesday morning that her group will meet as originally planned in late April to push legislation forward.
“It is absolutely still on course, and I can tell you that I haven’t witnessed any slowdown whatsoever,” said Calhoun, the athletic director at Pennsylvania, in a phone interview. “The working groups continue to convene very regularly, and we are still on pace to deliver initial recommendations to the full council for its April meeting, which of course will take place virtually.”
Maybe a dumb question, but: why
would any of this slow down?
Although, I admit I'm not wild about the idea of the NCAA considering whether kids should get money, at a time when the NCAA is poised to hurt for money.
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:43 pm
by Deleted User 289
Dumb answer time. Maybe because people on the committee could possibly be focusing on other things in their lives right now - other than if some college kid gets paid for his/her name/image/likeness?
Speaking from a personal perspective - As far as the company that I work for, we are all supposed to work the best we can under the circumstances but it's been stressed that of course our and our loved ones health and well being are to take precedence.
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:33 pm
by Sparko
I think our 2020 Banner will make everything magically go away. It should also be a little bigger.
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:50 pm
by NDballer13
https://sports.yahoo.com/the-ncaa-spent ... 19174.html
Chances they swing this to somehow deny the N/I/L decision?
"Players can't be paid because we don't have enough money anymore after spending all of it to make sure they didn't get a bigger piece. Until we can have a reserve again, made off of these kids, they don't deserve to make any for themselves."
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:23 pm
by Deleted User 310
Hopefully the majority or all of the n/i/l money would be separate from the NCAA anyway...so their finances shouldn't matter.
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:44 pm
by NDballer13
Should be, yes, but can't really count on the NCAA when it comes to what "should be" lol.
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:51 pm
by jfish26
NDballer13 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:50 pm
https://sports.yahoo.com/the-ncaa-spent ... 19174.html
Chances they swing this to somehow deny the N/I/L decision?
"Players can't be paid because we don't have enough money anymore after spending all of it to make sure they didn't get a bigger piece. Until we can have a reserve again, made off of these kids, they don't deserve to make any for themselves."
Well, I don't know anyone serious who is suggesting it is realistic for the schools to pay the players.
If anything, the cash crunch might mean the NCAA doesn't want to pay lawyers to outlast us in a fight.
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:34 pm
by Deleted User 310
If anything, the advocates for "the athletes" want it to be anyone EXCEPT the NCAA/schools paying the players. Partly because nobody has any good faith left in the NCAA/school to be fair about it.
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:51 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
At least for now, schools offering what they currently do with tuition, room & board, cost of living, and with updated contractual protections and allowing 3rd party NIL is probably the best legal balance.
There also needs to be overhaul on school profits off of sports.
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:08 pm
by jfish26
Which the market might solve; I would expect a natural consequence is that sponsorship revenue (for schools) would decline a great deal.
Re: F the NCAA
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:17 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
So, it is starting to look like the NCAA will back down on N/I/L as well as archaic and hypocritical transfer rules in no small part from being on the brink of bankruptcy cause by a global pandemic.
Very NCAA.