Kansas Crimson

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 9:24 am

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:30 am I don't think there was any significant voter fraud that occured. Key word think.

...but i do find it funny/predictable/sad that the right is so positive fraud occured (because fox told them so) and the left is so positive it didn't occur (because CNN told them so).

Let the process play out. Recounts and inspection of ballots to verify there was no significant voter fraud is a legitimate part of the democratic process. If there was significant fraud it will be relatively easy to detect and prove. If there wasn't it will be relatively easy to detect and prove.

But nobody knows either way for certain yet. Key word being knows.

Thanks for speaking (incorrectly) for me.

I do not believe that fraud did not happen simply because CNN tells me so. I simply doubt that enough of it happened to change the results of the election because mountains of research has been done on it for decades, because I have not seen any credible evidence to make me believe that it has happened and because the court cases that have already been ruled on have been thrown out for lack of credible evidence.

Trump has legal options available to prove his claims. He either will or (more likely) won't.

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 9:32 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 9:24 am

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:30 am I don't think there was any significant voter fraud that occured. Key word think.

...but i do find it funny/predictable/sad that the right is so positive fraud occured (because fox told them so) and the left is so positive it didn't occur (because CNN told them so).

Let the process play out. Recounts and inspection of ballots to verify there was no significant voter fraud is a legitimate part of the democratic process. If there was significant fraud it will be relatively easy to detect and prove. If there wasn't it will be relatively easy to detect and prove.

But nobody knows either way for certain yet. Key word being knows.

Thanks for speaking (incorrectly) for me.

I do not believe that fraud did not happen simply because CNN tells me so. I simply doubt that enough of it happened to change the results of the election because mountains of research has been done on it for decades, because I have not seen any credible evidence to make me believe that it has happened and because the court cases that have already been ruled on have been thrown out for lack of credible evidence.

Trump has legal options available to prove his claims. He either will or (more likely) won't.

Nobody spoke for you. I didn't even mention you or quote you.

You haven't done fucking research on it. You're so full of shit. You have read the same articles we have all read.

The difference being decades of research don't mean shit for 2020 because this year is an anomaly due to the circumstances.

And stop acting like you have evidence presented to you or look at court docs. You don't. You watch/read the news and form your opinion.

Now get back to work.

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 9:24 am

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:30 am I don't think there was any significant voter fraud that occured. Key word think.

...but i do find it funny/predictable/sad that the right is so positive fraud occured (because fox told them so) and the left is so positive it didn't occur (because CNN told them so).

Let the process play out. Recounts and inspection of ballots to verify there was no significant voter fraud is a legitimate part of the democratic process. If there was significant fraud it will be relatively easy to detect and prove. If there wasn't it will be relatively easy to detect and prove.

But nobody knows either way for certain yet. Key word being knows.

Thanks for speaking (incorrectly) for me.

I do not believe that fraud did not happen simply because CNN tells me so. I simply doubt that enough of it happened to change the results of the election because mountains of research has been done on it for decades, because I have not seen any credible evidence to make me believe that it has happened and because the court cases that have already been ruled on have been thrown out for lack of credible evidence.

Trump has legal options available to prove his claims. He either will or (more likely) won't.

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:13 pm The element of the Trump disciples that I will never understand is the loyalty.

He has no loyalty to anyone but himself, and yet people are "ride or die" with him. It doesn't make any sense.

I've never felt obligated to a candidate beyond giving him/her my vote.