Kansas Crimson

The point isn't about the oath. Covid and unnecessary covid vaccines are all new things. Their oath does not address being vorced to take medical treatments they don't need. Thats political

Many of those fired Healthcare workers probably already had covid. Have natural immunity. Still forced to get vaccinated or quit. Just dumb

randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 4:55 pm Many of those fired Healthcare workers probably already had covid. Have natural immunity. Still forced to get vaccinated or quit. Just dumb

no, it’s not

natural immunity does very little towards producing antibodies against covid-19...it does great for protection against other coronaviruses though

again, it seems as though your perspective comes from a place of ignorance. please educate yourself

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:39 pm https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 21264363v1

not my summary, but a good one:

...researchers characterised the magnitude and specificity of SARS-CoV-2 spike-reactive antibodies from 10 acutely infected health care workers and 23 participants who received mRNA-based SARS-CoV-2 vaccines.

They found that infection and primary mRNA vaccination elicited S1 and S2-reactive antibodies, while secondary vaccination boosted mostly S1 antibodies. Using magnetic bead-based absorption assays, they found that SARS-CoV-2 infections elicited a large proportion of original antigenic sin-like antibodies that bound efficiently to common seasonal human coronaviruses but poorly to SARS-CoV-2. In converse, vaccination only modestly boosted antibodies reactive to common seasonal human coronaviruses and these antibodies bound efficiently to SARS-CoV-2.

These data indicate that SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccinations elicit fundamentally different antibody responses compared to SARS-CoV-2 infections.

edit: i believe medrxiv is a preprint server, so this study has yet to go through full vetting and peer review. i’ll gladly eat crow if it turns out to be false (but it isn’t a novel phenomenon, and so i’d imagine the study is valid)

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 5:09 pm

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:39 pm https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 21264363v1

not my summary, but a good one:

...researchers characterised the magnitude and specificity of SARS-CoV-2 spike-reactive antibodies from 10 acutely infected health care workers and 23 participants who received mRNA-based SARS-CoV-2 vaccines.

They found that infection and primary mRNA vaccination elicited S1 and S2-reactive antibodies, while secondary vaccination boosted mostly S1 antibodies. Using magnetic bead-based absorption assays, they found that SARS-CoV-2 infections elicited a large proportion of original antigenic sin-like antibodies that bound efficiently to common seasonal human coronaviruses but poorly to SARS-CoV-2. In converse, vaccination only modestly boosted antibodies reactive to common seasonal human coronaviruses and these antibodies bound efficiently to SARS-CoV-2.

These data indicate that SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccinations elicit fundamentally different antibody responses compared to SARS-CoV-2 infections.

edit: i believe medrxiv is a preprint server, so this study has yet to go through full vetting and peer review. i’ll gladly eat crow if it turns out to be false (but it isn’t a novel phenomenon, and so i’d imagine the study is valid)

randy can't read at that level.

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 5:25 pm

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 5:09 pm

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:39 pm https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 21264363v1

not my summary, but a good one:

...researchers characterised the magnitude and specificity of SARS-CoV-2 spike-reactive antibodies from 10 acutely infected health care workers and 23 participants who received mRNA-based SARS-CoV-2 vaccines.

They found that infection and primary mRNA vaccination elicited S1 and S2-reactive antibodies, while secondary vaccination boosted mostly S1 antibodies. Using magnetic bead-based absorption assays, they found that SARS-CoV-2 infections elicited a large proportion of original antigenic sin-like antibodies that bound efficiently to common seasonal human coronaviruses but poorly to SARS-CoV-2. In converse, vaccination only modestly boosted antibodies reactive to common seasonal human coronaviruses and these antibodies bound efficiently to SARS-CoV-2.

These data indicate that SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccinations elicit fundamentally different antibody responses compared to SARS-CoV-2 infections.

edit: i believe medrxiv is a preprint server, so this study has yet to go through full vetting and peer review. i’ll gladly eat crow if it turns out to be false (but it isn’t a novel phenomenon, and so i’d imagine the study is valid)

randy can't read at that level.

youre the one who spent weeks trying to convince me to get vaccinated, when I plain as day told you over and over I already was. apparently you cant read at any level

cool story bro.

get vaccinated.

but yes i get it, you guys are big pussies who agree with changing the entire world in the name of covid. you agree with surrendering your rights to your own medical decisions and forcing your opinion on the entire world. fortunately most the world does not feel this way, but that is cute this little group on a covid thread on a KU message board thinks that way.

Again I encourage you to disconnect from the internet, step outside, and get some fresh air

Where was Karen's whining for the last 10+ years when healthcare workers were forced to take the flu vaccine?

Karen can't read, or think for himself, he just regurgitates bullshit he's been told.

What kind of "pussy" thinks getting a harmless shot is world changing?

Talk about snowflakes.

I stepped outside and got some fresh air.
Now what?

Karen was whining again.

He wants big government controlling private businesses and who they can and can't fire.

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:40 pm Karen was whining again.

He wants big government controlling private businesses and who they can and can't fire.

Big government is the problem in all of this. Im baffled by your attempted comment

Had to test my 5yo the other day. Had a running fever for a couple of days... Test was negative.

I’m convinced the allergies in Texas are terrible right now.

I am on round 2 of allergy crap as well and have felt like much of the week.

randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:22 pm

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:40 pm Karen was whining again.

He wants big government controlling private businesses and who they can and can't fire.

Big government is the problem in all of this. Im baffled by your attempted comment

Maybe you should tell Abbott to back off and let businesses make their own rules.

Karen ain't paying attention to what's going on.

My cousin just died of covid. Rip.

TDub wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:33 pm My cousin just died of covid. Rip.

Sorry to hear that.

TDub wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:33 pm My cousin just died of covid. Rip.

That sucks TDub. I'm sorry.