Kansas Crimson

Even if every suspect says “I can’t breathe,” I’m not sure that means cops are no longer supposed to treat it as a medical emergency.

They even called an ambulance. But on the scene, their mindset wasn’t exactly first aid.

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 5:25 pm wear a hoodie and eat skittles...

go for a jog...

sell cigarette singles...

try a use a fake $20...

i know there’s more. what else am i forgetting?

Someone I know posted this...
I have privilege as a White person because I can do all of these things without thinking twice about it...

I can go jogging (#AmaudArbery).
I can relax in the comfort of my own home (#BothemSean and #AtatianaJefferson).
I can ask for help after being in a car crash (#JonathanFerrell and #RenishaMcBride).
I can have a cellphone (#StephonClark).
I can leave a party to get to safety (#JordanEdwards).
I can play loud music (#JordanDavis).
I can sell CD's (#AltonSterling).
I can sleep (#AiyanaJones)
I can walk from the corner store (#MikeBrown).
I can play cops and robbers (#TamirRice).
I can go to church (#Charleston9).
I can walk home with Skittles (#TrayvonMartin).
I can hold a hair brush while leaving my own bachelor party (#SeanBell).
I can party on New Years (#OscarGrant).
I can get a normal traffic ticket (#SandraBland).
I can lawfully carry a weapon (#PhilandoCastile).
I can break down on a public road with car problems (#CoreyJones).
I can shop at Walmart (#JohnCrawford) .
I can have a disabled vehicle (#TerrenceCrutcher).
I can read a book in my own car (#KeithScott).
I can be a 10yr old walking with our grandfather (#CliffordGlover).
I can decorate for a party (#ClaudeReese).
I can ask a cop a question (#RandyEvans).
I can cash a check in peace (#YvonneSmallwood).
I can take out my wallet (#AmadouDiallo).
I can run (#WalterScott).
I can breathe (#EricGarner).
I can live (#FreddieGray).
I can ask someone to put a leash on their dog when it is required in the public park we are in (#ChristianCooper).
I can be arrested without the fear of being murdered (#GeorgeFloyd)

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 5:25 pm wear a hoodie and eat skittles...

go for a jog...

sell cigarette singles...

try a use a fake $20...

i know there’s more. what else am i forgetting?

The first two are different from the last, given the assailants. And it would be a mistake to conflate the two, because they point to different solutions.

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 5:37 pm

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 5:25 pm wear a hoodie and eat skittles...

go for a jog...

sell cigarette singles...

try a use a fake $20...

i know there’s more. what else am i forgetting?

The first two are different from the last, given the assailants. And it would be a mistake to conflate the two, because they point to different solutions.

i don’t think they’re as different as you’re suggesting

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 5:38 pm

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 5:37 pm

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 5:25 pm wear a hoodie and eat skittles...

go for a jog...

sell cigarette singles...

try a use a fake $20...

i know there’s more. what else am i forgetting?

The first two are different from the last, given the assailants. And it would be a mistake to conflate the two, because they point to different solutions.

i don’t think they’re as different as you’re suggesting

I dunno.

Racism is bad. In fact, it's evil. But a general propensity to distrust those outside of one's own in-group is a characteristic of the human condition from time immemorial. We should work to address that and to eliminate as much of it as possible, but we must also acknowledge that a world entirely free from such negative prejudices is every bit as unlikely as a world without violence or war.

The idea that George Floyd and Eric Garner were directly killed by racism is highly unlikely. And pursuing that as the principal cause of their deaths would be a disservice to their memories and to those who might suffer a similar fate in the future, without intervention. Indirectly, they were victims of race because of the circumstances of their lives that are derived from racial matters. But directly, they were victims of poor/bad/malicious policing. And THAT can be addressed a great deal more easily than the entire human condition.

Being Black while 12 y/o and holding a toy gun.

An Ohio grand jury has decided not to return an indictment in the 2014 police shooting death of 12-year-old Tamir Rice, a prosecutor said. CNN's Jean Casarez reports.

Will everyone still buy sneakers?

pdub wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 5:16 pm

NiceDC wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 5:10 pm

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 4:57 pmYou take a nap?

Not Nice.

Could be nice.
Or at least neutral if he was genuinely asking.

I take tone into consideration. I rank it Not Nice.

White House on lockdown.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/loca ... t/2316832/

https://www.wbaltv.com/article/reports- ... y/32716925

Here is/was a little skirmish.



Not so little move....

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 6:05 pm The idea that George Floyd and Eric Garner were directly killed by racism is highly unlikely.

Gotta disagree, sir. Not unlikely at all. Rather, seems presumptive.

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 6:05 pm But directly, they were victims of poor/bad/malicious policing. And THAT can be addressed a great deal more easily than the entire human condition.

Totally agree, sir.




It's my view that outcomes can have multiple, contributory, direct causes.

I could be wrong.

As could I.

Brooklyn, a half hour ago:

And Atlanta:

Protesting at CNN why?

Also, covid gonna be a spreading this week/end

Get back, Meghan!

TDub wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 7:27 pm Also, covid gonna be a spreading this week/end

Speaking of, some kid in Boone Co., MO that was at all the big bar hopping Ozarks pools over Memorial Day tested positive for COVID-19.

At this point the cops have to say enough. Check out the 2nd video under the word Jesus.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 5:31 pm Even if every suspect says “I can’t breathe,” I’m not sure that means cops are no longer supposed to treat it as a medical emergency.

They even called an ambulance. But on the scene, their mindset wasn’t exactly first aid.

I am curious if police officers, who are considered first responders, have a legal obligation to provide medical aid when they encounter someone who requires medical assistance.