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Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:17 am
by Deleted User 863
hasbeen wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:15 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:08 am Why is Braun better off the bench? Like strategy wise what makes that more effective for the team? Or is it solely because people don't like him?
I like him quite a bit, but I personally prefer 2 guards that handle the ball well. That leaves a wing spot for Braun or Ochai and OA is better.

I think he plays similar minutes to last year, but coming off the bench may loosen him up a bit so he doesn't hesitate on catch and shoot 3s.
Are you making a spot for Harris to start? 🤮

It's crazy to me how critical people are of Braun, but yet Harris seems loved and he is not nearly as good at basketball as Braun.

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:19 am
by TDub
Ochai is starting.

Wilson is starting

Mac is starting

Remy is starting



Yes and Braun competing for the 5th spot. I lean towards Yes because its nice to have a 2nd ballhandler.

Hows pettifords recovery going?

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:19 am
by ousdahl
Lol

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:19 am
by hasbeen
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:17 am
hasbeen wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:15 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:08 am Why is Braun better off the bench? Like strategy wise what makes that more effective for the team? Or is it solely because people don't like him?
I like him quite a bit, but I personally prefer 2 guards that handle the ball well. That leaves a wing spot for Braun or Ochai and OA is better.

I think he plays similar minutes to last year, but coming off the bench may loosen him up a bit so he doesn't hesitate on catch and shoot 3s.
Are you making a spot for Harris to start? 🤮



It's crazy to me how critical people are of Braun, but yet Harris seems loved and he is not nearly as good at basketball as Braun.
I hope Harris plays 2 minutes a game next year. I'm making room for Yesefu.

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:21 am
by ousdahl
Yeah, Harris does some things well, but as a whole I think at this point even Self too is in the camp who wants to limit minutes for non-shooters

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:23 am
by Deleted User 863
hasbeen wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:19 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:17 am
hasbeen wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:15 am

I like him quite a bit, but I personally prefer 2 guards that handle the ball well. That leaves a wing spot for Braun or Ochai and OA is better.

I think he plays similar minutes to last year, but coming off the bench may loosen him up a bit so he doesn't hesitate on catch and shoot 3s.
Are you making a spot for Harris to start? 🤮



It's crazy to me how critical people are of Braun, but yet Harris seems loved and he is not nearly as good at basketball as Braun.
I hope Harris plays 2 minutes a game next year. I'm making room for this Yesefu.
Ok. We are sort of on the same page then.

Any word on Remy pulling out of the draft yet? Is Yesefu testing the waters as well?

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:26 am
by Deleted User 89
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:17 am
hasbeen wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:15 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:08 am Why is Braun better off the bench? Like strategy wise what makes that more effective for the team? Or is it solely because people don't like him?
I like him quite a bit, but I personally prefer 2 guards that handle the ball well. That leaves a wing spot for Braun or Ochai and OA is better.

I think he plays similar minutes to last year, but coming off the bench may loosen him up a bit so he doesn't hesitate on catch and shoot 3s.
Are you making a spot for Harris to start? 🤮

It's crazy to me how critical people are of Braun, but yet Harris seems loved and he is not nearly as good at basketball as Braun.
braun is a better scorer, with better size

Harris seems to do everything else better

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:28 am
by Deleted User 863
TraditionKU wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:26 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:17 am
hasbeen wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:15 am

I like him quite a bit, but I personally prefer 2 guards that handle the ball well. That leaves a wing spot for Braun or Ochai and OA is better.

I think he plays similar minutes to last year, but coming off the bench may loosen him up a bit so he doesn't hesitate on catch and shoot 3s.
Are you making a spot for Harris to start? 🤮

It's crazy to me how critical people are of Braun, but yet Harris seems loved and he is not nearly as good at basketball as Braun.
braun is a better scorer, with better size

Harris seems to do everything else better
Harris is not a better rebounder or on ball defender than Braun imo.

The only thing harris does noticeably better is dribble/pass.

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:29 am
by hasbeen
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:23 am
hasbeen wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:19 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:17 am

Are you making a spot for Harris to start? 🤮



It's crazy to me how critical people are of Braun, but yet Harris seems loved and he is not nearly as good at basketball as Braun.
I hope Harris plays 2 minutes a game next year. I'm making room for this Yesefu.
Ok. We are sort of on the same page then.

Any word on Remy pulling out of the draft yet? Is Yesefu testing the waters as well?
I don't think Yesefu is testing. The word on Twitter is Remy is very likely to return to school. I hope that's right -- this season looks much different if he goes pro.

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:31 am
by Deleted User 863
So with no Remy

It's

Yesefu
Och
Braun
Wilson
DMac

And with Remy it gets dicey for Braun or Yesefu. Makes sense. Hard to keep up with all the new faces.

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:32 am
by NewtonHawk11
CB ain't sitting to start the year folks.

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:33 am
by hasbeen
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:32 am CB ain't sitting to start the year folks.
I made no prediction. If I had to guess, it will be: Remy, Braun, Agbaji, Wilson, and Dave.

But in my opinion, this is a better starting lineup: Remy, Yesefu, Agbaji, Wilson, and Dave.

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:39 am
by TDub
Agreed. And i like braun a lot. But a second ballhandler/creator/attacker makes a big difference.

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:40 am
by ousdahl
Yeah.

I think Braun stands to start the first few games.

But as the season goes on, and particularly come that winter break retooling, if one of our transfer guards comes off the bench and clearly makes us better, maybe give him the nod

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:42 am
by ousdahl
That could likely be either Yesufu or JCL, but heck maybe one of the freshies will surprise

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:44 am
by Deleted User 863
With Och Wilson and maybe Remy coming back i think it's highly possible we see a transfer or 2 in the next month or so.

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:45 am
by Deleted User 89
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:28 am
TraditionKU wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:26 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:17 am

Are you making a spot for Harris to start? 🤮

It's crazy to me how critical people are of Braun, but yet Harris seems loved and he is not nearly as good at basketball as Braun.
braun is a better scorer, with better size

Harris seems to do everything else better
Harris is not a better rebounder or on ball defender than Braun imo.

The only thing harris does noticeably better is dribble/pass.
agree on rebounding, but Harris (size aside) has better lateral movement and so is definitely the better on-ball defender

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:46 am
by hasbeen
I don't understand why the 34 year old transfer from Iowa State chose KU. Maybe he thought OA was gone?

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:49 am
by ousdahl
Maybe he thinks he can compete for minutes either way?

Re: 21-22 lineup

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:50 am
by NDballer13
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:44 am With Och Wilson and maybe Remy coming back i think it's highly possible we see a transfer or 2 in the next month or so.
Hasn't the deadline to enter the portal passed? A transfer this late would mean they miss out on the chance to play immediately and have to sit out anyway, no?