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Re: 2024/2025 Lineup
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2024 1:50 pm
by mjl2
DeletedUser wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2024 12:37 pm
randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2024 12:35 pm
You aren't high on moore?
I didn't know he existed 72hrs ago.
Yeah, exactly. This is "what do we do if Mayo can't play point".
Re: 2024/2025 Lineup
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2024 1:55 pm
by mjl2
DeletedUser wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2024 12:23 pm
Is Griffen a good ball handler?
Who gets the PG minutes when DH is out: Zeke or ShakMo (still not liking it)?
Late last year, when Elmarko was messing up and DH was out (and KM was hurt), we had Kj initiating offense and bringing the ball up. We really need Zeke or ShakMo to be able to competently bring the ball up against pressure and initiate offense for 6-8mim per game.
I do like the idea of letting Kj initiate occasionally at times (especially when DH is out), similar to how we used JW at times, because it takes the pressure off of his shooting and he excels at passing/driving.
I've also been seeing some videos of HD looking quicker and stronger. A clear emphasis for him must be the pump fake on jump shots and driving to the hoop. That should improve his effectiveness in the p&r with DH and with the big to big action we run with he and Kj. Self should be watching tape of how well Rudy and KAT work together in their big to big action and try to replicate some of that.
I think some of what you said went completely unnoticed last year, in particular with KJ playing some point when Harris was out, McCullar was hurt, and Elmarko was completely untrustable.
As well as how Wilson took pressure off Harris by being the guy taking it up court and initiating the offense the year before.
Harris isn't effective running the team more than 30 mpg. He needs help. I'm curious if Self by end of year trusts Moore or KJ with that more. Or, preferably, Mayo can play point and it's a non-issue
Re: 2024/2025 Lineup
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2024 1:55 pm
by DeletedUser
randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2024 1:12 pm
DeletedUser wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2024 12:37 pm
randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2024 12:35 pm
You aren't high on moore?
I didn't know he existed 72hrs ago.
He's a nice addition to our team. Tons of experience. He's a shifty point with a decent outside jumper.
Most importantly he guards. He locks in defensively and is kind of a "pest"
Self gives guys a chance if they guard.
It's not a coincidence he committed immediately after elmarkos role became vacant
That's what I've gathered as well.
My initial reaction was that it seems unlikely we play he and DH together, so that essentially caps his minutes at like 8-10 per game.
I guess some/a lot depends on Zeke. He has more of what we need.
We know only 8 guys are going to play. Maybe 9 if Self gets "crazy" (for him). At least in close games. Maybe we'll blow some people out and get some extended bench minutes this year.
Re: 2024/2025 Lineup
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2024 1:56 pm
by randylahey
we know dajuan is playing over 30 minutes a game. All we need moore to do is give us a few minutes of defense and ball handling. Maybe get a bucket or 2. We're golden. He's got a couple seasons worth of starts in the SEC. He can step in as a back up pg
Re: 2024/2025 Lineup
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2024 3:32 pm
by Shirley
Re: 2024/2025 Lineup
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2024 4:54 pm
by DeletedUser
Love his attitude. Understands he's a freshman.
Re: 2024/2025 Lineup
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2024 9:36 pm
by Shirley
Re: 2024/2025 Lineup
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 7:25 pm
by DeletedUser
Headband Hunter is looking more explosive already.
Also, they are playing Hunter and Clemence together occasionally it looks like in these practices. As well as some videos showing KJ Clemence and Hunter ALL together in the same lineup. So that's interesting.
Re: 2024/2025 Lineup
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 9:27 pm
by randylahey
Clemence is a guy who could impact this team more than people are expecting. I'm curious to see how far his game has come. He's skilled. Most important thing for him is building confidence early and seeing those shots go in
Re: 2024/2025 Lineup
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 8:10 am
by DeletedUser
After seeing some videos and some of the combos we are using I think our starting 5 day 1 is going to be (nothing mind blowing here):
DH
Zeke
Storr
KJ
HD
Solid bench depth. I like that it appears we will have 2 bench bigs in the main rotation instead of just 1 with Clemence and Bidunga.
Re: 2024/2025 Lineup
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 8:26 am
by ousdahl
Zeke over Griffin?
Re: 2024/2025 Lineup
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 9:39 am
by DeletedUser
ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2024 8:26 am
Zeke over Griffin?
It's just a guess. But yes, Zeke over Griffen to start, on day 1.
I think Zeke is a better ballhandler and outside shooter.
Both will play plenty.
Re: 2024/2025 Lineup
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 10:18 am
by KUTradition
DeletedUser wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2024 8:10 am
After seeing some videos and some of the combos we are using I think our starting 5 day 1 is going to be (nothing mind blowing here):
DH
Zeke
Storr
KJ
HD
Solid bench depth. I like that it appears we will have
2 bench bigs in the main rotation instead of just 1 with Clemence and Bidunga.
2 that bring quite different skill sets it would seem
we should be able to field some versatile lineups
Re: 2024/2025 Lineup
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 10:43 am
by DeletedUser
KUTradition wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2024 10:18 am
DeletedUser wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2024 8:10 am
After seeing some videos and some of the combos we are using I think our starting 5 day 1 is going to be (nothing mind blowing here):
DH
Zeke
Storr
KJ
HD
Solid bench depth. I like that it appears we will have
2 bench bigs in the main rotation instead of just 1 with Clemence and Bidunga.
2 that bring quite different skill sets it would seem
we should be able to field some versatile lineups
I must admit, I am a little nervous about Bidunga, and how much he can contribute next season....and how happy he will be if he doesn't contribute as much as he'd like.
Re: 2024/2025 Lineup
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 11:38 am
by ousdahl
Hoping Bidunga can at play a freshman Silvio role by March. Play with energy, crash boreds, dunk lobs, and run run run.
And if Zeke is good enough to start at any point, that’s great, and means maybe he doesn’t hit the mid major transfer learning curve as hard as other doods
Re: 2024/2025 Lineup
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 1:02 pm
by DeletedUser
Zeke is in a good spot for his skillset. He is not being asked to come in and play point guard or run the offense. Especially not with Shak Moore committing late. Zeke will likely only need to learn 1 position (the 2 spot). He will basically be a spot up shooter, which he is capable of doing.
Zeke (and everyone else that is new) will benefit from playing alongside HD and the attention he draws.
Re: 2024/2025 Lineup
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 5:06 pm
by ousdahl
Been thinking about this one
And, short of prematurely startinf a 25/26 lineup thread, will just ask here:
Is next year Elmarko’s team?
Re: 2024/2025 Lineup
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 5:17 pm
by DeletedUser
No.
LOL
Re: 2024/2025 Lineup
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 7:19 pm
by mjl2
Bidunga could be Juan's favorite toy.
I remember when Anthony Davis was on the Olympic team right out of college. He only got in the game when it was pretty much done, but LeBron and others looked like they were having fun just tossing the ball toward the rim and letting him go get it. I think Harris could do this with Bidunga.
Re: 2024/2025 Lineup
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 8:02 pm
by Back2Lawrence
ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2024 5:06 pm
Is next year Elmarko’s team?
I was kinda hoping the second half of this coming season would be his coming out party, and restore/revive/whatever the process of development at one school over the course of several seasons, especially after an auspicious start, especially as it relates to one’s potential.