Kansas Crimson

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:38 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:35 am

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:34 am villanova was in the Big East in 1985.

I had thought Big East was a decided mid major in those days, no?

I don't think so. I mean, they played fellow Big East team and #1 ranked Georgetown in the final. St. John's was a power and so was Syracuse.

Cascadia wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:40 am

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:38 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:35 am

I had thought Big East was a decided mid major in those days, no?

I don't think so. I mean, they played fellow Big East team and #1 ranked Georgetown in the final. St. John's was a power and so was Syracuse.

Agreed on Big East being a major conference, but a mid major team did win in 2014

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:44 am

Cascadia wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:40 am

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:38 am

I don't think so. I mean, they played fellow Big East team and #1 ranked Georgetown in the final. St. John's was a power and so was Syracuse.

Agreed on Big East being a major conference, but a mid major team did win in 2014

Well it's a little semantics, because the American was more of a major conference in 2014 than the Big East was because of weird re-alignment. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Big_ ... Tournament)

UConn/Nova have a major program feel and have floated between conferences that dip in and out of major status.

Cascadia wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:40 am

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:38 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:35 am

I had thought Big East was a decided mid major in those days, no?

I don't think so. I mean, they played fellow Big East team and #1 ranked Georgetown in the final. St. John's was a power and so was Syracuse.

Agreed on Big East being a major conference, but a mid major team did win in 2014

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:45 am

Cascadia wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:40 am

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:38 am

I don't think so. I mean, they played fellow Big East team and #1 ranked Georgetown in the final. St. John's was a power and so was Syracuse.

Agreed on Big East being a major conference, but a mid major team did win in 2014

That's true, but it almost feels like a technicality since UConn had just left the Big East, and is back in the Big East now, plus, the AAC at the time also had Louisville.

Cascadia wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:48 am

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:45 am

Cascadia wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:40 am


Agreed on Big East being a major conference, but a mid major team did win in 2014

That's true, but it almost feels like a technicality since UConn had just left the Big East, and is back in the Big East now, plus, the AAC at the time also had Louisville.

It's not a technicality if your argument is NCAA Tournament success requires good competition in the two months that proceed the tournament. Past and future teams rosters and experience do not apply. A team from the 8th best conference (mid major) won the tournament in 2014.

For reference, the WCC is 5th this year, the ACC is 7th

vega wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:50 am ACC is a midmajor.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:52 am

Cascadia wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:48 am

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:45 am
That's true, but it almost feels like a technicality since UConn had just left the Big East, and is back in the Big East now, plus, the AAC at the time also had Louisville.

It's not a technicality if your argument is NCAA Tournament success requires good competition in the two months that proceed the tournament. Past and future teams rosters and experience do not apply. A team from the 8th best conference (mid major) won the tournament in 2014.

For reference, the WCC is 5th this year, the ACC is 7th

Always going to be outliers, and I again wouldn't argue "require" because a juggernaut team can certainly win it all regardless of who they played all season.

But, even if we say UCONN counts in 2014, that is two mid-majors in 30+ years going back to 1990. It's just more often than not the teams playing against major competition in the regular season tend to win this thing and go to the Final Four more often than the mid-majors. Certainly is not "dependent" on that factor, though.

Cascadia wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:54 am It is this year!

UNC
Virginia Tech
Georgia Tech
Clemson
Virginia

all out in the first round

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:55 am

Cascadia wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:54 am It is this year!

UNC
Virginia Tech
Georgia Tech
Clemson
Virginia

all out in the first round

What does that make the B1G?

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:01 am Don't like it.
Hope next year it's back to Thu/Fri/Sat/Sun.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:07 am

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:01 am Don't like it.
Hope next year it's back to Thu/Fri/Sat/Sun.

Yeah, I don't like this either.