Kansas Crimson

ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:42 am That could likely be either Yesufu or JCL, but heck maybe one of the freshies will surprise

Not going to be JCL. That was Och insurance. Hes not gonna play anything but mop up minutes

TDub wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:50 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:42 am That could likely be either Yesufu or JCL, but heck maybe one of the freshies will surprise

Not going to be JCL. That was Och insurance. Hes not gonna play anything but mop up minutes

Then why come at all?

We don’t know that yet

NDballer13 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:50 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:44 am With Och Wilson and maybe Remy coming back i think it's highly possible we see a transfer or 2 in the next month or so.

Hasn't the deadline to enter the portal passed? A transfer this late would mean they miss out on the chance to play immediately and have to sit out anyway, no?

Oh maybe. I was thinking it was still free for all transfer rules.

Remy
JCL/Yes
Och
Wilson
DMac

Yes/JCL
Harris
Cam

Braun takes a shirt and spends the season putting out the vibes at Morningstar’s pizza

hasbeen wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:46 am I don't understand why the 34 year old transfer from Iowa State chose KU. Maybe he thought OA was gone?

I think you nailed it. He was basically an insurance policy if Ochai didn't come back. With Ochai (and Remy) back, he just fills the scholarship limit.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:53 am

TDub wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:50 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:42 am That could likely be either Yesufu or JCL, but heck maybe one of the freshies will surprise

Not going to be JCL. That was Och insurance. Hes not gonna play anything but mop up minutes

Then why come at all?

because it’s KU, Self and Lawrence?

sure beats the hell out of Ames, plus the chance at a F4 and ‘ship

unless he was draftable, what’s there to loose? playing time is about it, but depending on what he sees in his future, KU might actually provide more benefit

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:59 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:53 am

TDub wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:50 am

Not going to be JCL. That was Och insurance. Hes not gonna play anything but mop up minutes

Then why come at all?

because it’s KU, Self and Lawrence?

sure beats the hell out of Ames, plus the chance at a F4 and ‘ship

unless he was draftable, what’s there to loose? playing time is about it, but depending on what he sees in his future, KU might actually provide more benefit

Non basketball reasons. Fair enough.

This will be what, his 7th year in college? You have to think if he had professional goals he would have pursued them by this point.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:53 am

TDub wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:50 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:42 am That could likely be either Yesufu or JCL, but heck maybe one of the freshies will surprise

Not going to be JCL. That was Och insurance. Hes not gonna play anything but mop up minutes

Then why come at all?

Because Och was gonna go pro

I can’t help but think the staff and JCL at least had some idea Och might return.

And I think JCL, worst case, stands to compete for good minutes even if he isn’t starting. But he might even compete for starting

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:01 am

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:59 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:53 am
Then why come at all?

because it’s KU, Self and Lawrence?

sure beats the hell out of Ames, plus the chance at a F4 and ‘ship

unless he was draftable, what’s there to loose? playing time is about it, but depending on what he sees in his future, KU might actually provide more benefit

Non basketball reasons. Fair enough.

Getting coached by a Hall of Famer at a top tier school is hardly "non basketball reasons".

ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:06 am I can’t help but think the staff and JCL at least had some idea Och might return.

And I think JCL, worst case, stands to compete for good minutes even if he isn’t starting. But he might even compete for starting

100% agree. He will be given the opportunity to earn a starting spot. Anyone who thinks Braun's spot is safe is crazy. He may earn it but it won't be just because he started last year. Braun's rebounding from the guard spot is above average but the rest of his game is vulnerable.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:06 am I can’t help but think the staff and JCL at least had some idea Och might return.

And I think JCL, worst case, stands to compete for good minutes even if he isn’t starting. But he might even compete for starting

Right. It's not like he's some scrub that transferred in. No one should be expecting him to be a star by any means, but he has proven at his previous stops he's a more than capable player.

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:06 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:01 am

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:59 am
because it’s KU, Self and Lawrence?

sure beats the hell out of Ames, plus the chance at a F4 and ‘ship

unless he was draftable, what’s there to loose? playing time is about it, but depending on what he sees in his future, KU might actually provide more benefit

Non basketball reasons. Fair enough.

Getting coached by a Hall of Famer at a top tier school is hardly "non basketball reasons".

It was in the context of playing only mop up minutes.

I am aware of Self's credentials.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:01 am

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:59 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:53 am
Then why come at all?

because it’s KU, Self and Lawrence?

sure beats the hell out of Ames, plus the chance at a F4 and ‘ship

unless he was draftable, what’s there to loose? playing time is about it, but depending on what he sees in his future, KU might actually provide more benefit

Non basketball reasons. Fair enough.

geography is the only non-basketball reason

there’s more to “development“ than playing time

Chad Ford is reporting that Remy is staying in the draft, but I've seen nothing official from Remy or anyone else. I'm just going to assume/hope that Chad is an idiot and bad at maintaining a good website.

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:12 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:01 am

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:59 am
because it’s KU, Self and Lawrence?

sure beats the hell out of Ames, plus the chance at a F4 and ‘ship

unless he was draftable, what’s there to loose? playing time is about it, but depending on what he sees in his future, KU might actually provide more benefit

Non basketball reasons. Fair enough.

geography is the only non-basketball reason

there’s more to “development“ than playing time

But he's almost 30. Non basketball reasons make more sense than basketball reasons (if he's not going to play much, which maybe he will and then this is all moot). KC is a big(ish) market. Maybe he's actually staying in school for educational reasons? That'd be a cool switch.

hasbeen wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:14 am Chad Ford is reporting that Remy is staying in the draft, but I've seen nothing official from Remy or anyone else. I'm just going to assume/hope that Chad is an idiot and bad at maintaining a good website.

Probably works out for us fine in the long run since he was a 1 year guy. More Yesefu.

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:59 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:53 am

TDub wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:50 am

Not going to be JCL. That was Och insurance. Hes not gonna play anything but mop up minutes

Then why come at all?

because it’s KU, Self and Lawrence?

sure beats the hell out of Ames, plus the chance at a F4 and ‘ship

unless he was draftable, what’s there to loose? playing time is about it, but depending on what he sees in his future, KU might actually provide more benefit

Jalen Coleman Lands has played a total of 3,733 minutes of college hoops. That's more than Marcus Garrett played in his 4 years at Kansas and more than any other player on next year's team. For comparison:

Remy Martin: 3,623
Ochai Agbaji: 2,611
Christian Braun: 1,503
David McCormack: 1,457
Mitch Lightfoot: 1,351
Joseph Yesufu: 857
Jalen Wilson: 824
Dajuan Harris: 481

He has gotten a chance to experience playing time. Now he seems to want to experience great coaching and big time winning.