Kansas Crimson

Hm.
I wonder if the student hype kinda started dipping, oh, when the players they were watching became less like them and more like professional athletes.
Surely there's no link there.

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 7:13 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 6:56 pm

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 6:49 pm

You forgot something. Let me help you.

Not sure how that applies. I’m just saying Bill needs to look in the mirror first.

Oh, it applies. But I agree, Self probably should (not necessarily "needs") to do some reflecting of his own if he hasn't already. I have a feeling he has. I'm just wondering if/when it gets to the point where he decides he's had enough. Today's college basketball world can't be as enjoyable for him as it used to be. Can it?

I’ve said before that I think the game - and my definition of that I’m included the NIL/transfer portal/entitled snowflake issues - has passed him by. He is used to breaking players down and building them back up, and the best players won’t stand for/stick around for thar anymore. I think his new soft approach isn’t working, either. He may just be too old and tired.

pdub wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 8:09 pm Hm.
I wonder if the student hype kinda started dipping, oh, when the players they were watching became less like them and more like professional athletes.
Surely there's no link there.

no way.

no link there.



also, no link to removing 1,000 seats to add super cool video boards so they can see FMBO adds and high def dancing nachos.

JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 8:13 pm

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 7:13 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 6:56 pm

Not sure how that applies. I’m just saying Bill needs to look in the mirror first.

Oh, it applies. But I agree, Self probably should (not necessarily "needs") to do some reflecting of his own if he hasn't already. I have a feeling he has. I'm just wondering if/when it gets to the point where he decides he's had enough. Today's college basketball world can't be as enjoyable for him as it used to be. Can it?

I’ve said before that I think the game - and my definition of that I’m included the NIL/transfer portal/entitled snowflake issues - has passed him by. He is used to breaking players down and building them back up, and the best players won’t stand for/stick around for thar anymore. I think his new soft approach isn’t working, either. He may just be too old and tired.

I take solace in the fact that you are, more often than not, 100% completely and totally wrong.

TDub wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 9:27 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 8:13 pm

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 7:13 pm

Oh, it applies. But I agree, Self probably should (not necessarily "needs") to do some reflecting of his own if he hasn't already. I have a feeling he has. I'm just wondering if/when it gets to the point where he decides he's had enough. Today's college basketball world can't be as enjoyable for him as it used to be. Can it?

I’ve said before that I think the game - and my definition of that I’m included the NIL/transfer portal/entitled snowflake issues - has passed him by. He is used to breaking players down and building them back up, and the best players won’t stand for/stick around for thar anymore. I think his new soft approach isn’t working, either. He may just be too old and tired.

I take solace in the fact that you are, more often than not, 100% completely and totally wrong.

I hope I am. I haven't seen much to disabuse me of that notion to this point.

JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 9:32 pm

TDub wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 9:27 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 8:13 pm

I’ve said before that I think the game - and my definition of that I’m included the NIL/transfer portal/entitled snowflake issues - has passed him by. He is used to breaking players down and building them back up, and the best players won’t stand for/stick around for thar anymore. I think his new soft approach isn’t working, either. He may just be too old and tired.

I take solace in the fact that you are, more often than not, 100% completely and totally wrong.

I hope I am. I haven't seen much to disabuse me of that notion to this point.

well, there again, I take solace in the fact that you are often not grounded in reality or verifiable information....so...other than your predetermined notions or unless you are specifically instructed to change your notions....you aren't disabused of much...facts he damned.

TDub wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 9:36 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 9:32 pm

TDub wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 9:27 pm

I take solace in the fact that you are, more often than not, 100% completely and totally wrong.

I hope I am. I haven't seen much to disabuse me of that notion to this point.

well, there again, I take solace in the fact that you are often not grounded in reality or verifiable information....so...other than your predetermined notions or unless you are specifically instructed to change your notions....you aren't disabused of much...facts he damned.

You seem to have a tenuous grasp on both the situation and the English language, so I'll give your observations exactly the amount of attention they merit.

quite a bit, apparently

giggles

KUTradition wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 10:24 pm quite a bit, apparently

giggles

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Overlander wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 12:47 am

KUTradition wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 10:24 pm quite a bit, apparently

giggles

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Right on cue, it’s Scut and Grover.

ding ding ding

psycho is nothing if not predictable

JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 5:52 pm I saw in today’s KC Star that Bill is dissatisfied with fan enthusiasm this year, particularly the student body. “I don’t feel the student hype the way I used to.”

Pretty ballsy to call out the fans when you put out a mediocre product two years running. I don’t see the intensity from Self that I used to, either.

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/colle ... l?tbref=hp

They've been in the top 12 the whole season.

TDub wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 9:26 pm

pdub wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 8:09 pm Hm.
I wonder if the student hype kinda started dipping, oh, when the players they were watching became less like them and more like professional athletes.
Surely there's no link there.

no way.

no link there.



also, no link to removing 1,000 seats to add super cool video boards so they can see FMBO adds and high def dancing nachos.

Exactly. You make it like the NBA, you're going to get an NBA environment, which is garbage compared to, well, what college basketball environments were

I think NIL has something to do with it, for sure.

I also think a shift in sports culture has some to do with it as well.

The AFH environment started changing before NIL in my opinion, but NIL has maybe magnified it, or at minimum it's done nothing to improve it.

Obviously, the AFH environment still crushes every other place. So I am only comparing AFH of now to AFH of old. Granted I've only been attending during the Roy and Self eras, which has been a historical stretch, so my opinion is influenced by that.

i’ve noticed it for a while, but look around during the game…people (students and otherwise) are on their fucking phones

mjl2 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:02 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 5:52 pm I saw in today’s KC Star that Bill is dissatisfied with fan enthusiasm this year, particularly the student body. “I don’t feel the student hype the way I used to.”

Pretty ballsy to call out the fans when you put out a mediocre product two years running. I don’t see the intensity from Self that I used to, either.

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/colle ... l?tbref=hp

They've been in the top 12 the whole season.

Top 12 is not up to par by KU standards. Top 5 and competing for the national title is expected, not losing to unranked teams at home.

There was an article in the Star yesterday as well where Self admitted that he was having a hard time getting the players to focus and get pumped up for games. When fans hear that, they wonder what's going on behind the scenes. Does not inspire confidence.

Compared to most years this team plays soft slow boring, no alpha dogs, and prone to coming out flat or brain dead stretches even more than normal too

The new guys settling in should help tho

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 10:23 am

mjl2 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:02 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 5:52 pm I saw in today’s KC Star that Bill is dissatisfied with fan enthusiasm this year, particularly the student body. “I don’t feel the student hype the way I used to.”

Pretty ballsy to call out the fans when you put out a mediocre product two years running. I don’t see the intensity from Self that I used to, either.

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/colle ... l?tbref=hp

They've been in the top 12 the whole season.

Top 12 is not up to par by KU standards. Top 5 and competing for the national title is expected....

It's crazy to think that's the standard, but it basically is. Fair or not.

BiggDick wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 11:02 am Compared to most years this team plays soft slow boring, no alpha dogs, and prone to coming out flat or brain dead stretches even more than normal too

The new guys settling in should help tho

Yes, and I sure hope so.

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 11:49 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 10:23 am

mjl2 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:02 am

They've been in the top 12 the whole season.

Top 12 is not up to par by KU standards. Top 5 and competing for the national title is expected....

It's crazy to think that's the standard, but it basically is. Fair or not.

No, it's not, that's crazy. Top 5 every week all the time is not the expectation for any team.