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Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 1:40 pm
by mjl2
If you need to be in the top five for the fans to be excited, then the fanbase is absolute garbage
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 1:41 pm
by pdub
mjl2 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 1:40 pm
If you need to be in the top five for the fans to be excited, then the fanbase is absolute garbage
mjl is so very correct here.
Get over yourselves.
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 1:44 pm
by jfish26
Whatever (and not denying at all) the impact of NIL and (much more meaningfully, IMO) the portal, I would guess that a lot of the malaise is attributable to this team basically being the same story of the last few years (which, with the title getting some gray hair as unfairly as that is, have been uninteresting and ultimately unsuccessful).
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 1:53 pm
by mjl2
So keeping players is bad and losing players is bad?
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 1:54 pm
by BiggDick
I just dunno how much NIL affects the enthusiasm of most fans.
I do think the portal may have a slightly more significant effect, since maybe some fans aren't as interested when there's so many new faces to learn.
But I still think the strongest correlation is the on-court product. If the game is exciting, then the fans will get excited.
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 2:09 pm
by TDub
of course NIL impacts fans enthusiasm. Its easier to cheer for your "peers" than for professionals you see on campus (or rather, advwrtisements on campus) in Porsches and lambos
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 2:21 pm
by JKLivin
mjl2 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 1:53 pm
So keeping players is bad and losing players is bad?
Winning is good; losing is bad. It’s really that simple.
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 2:35 pm
by BiggDick
TDub wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 2:09 pm
of course NIL impacts fans enthusiasm. Its easier to cheer for your "peers" than for professionals you see on campus (or rather, advwrtisements on campus) in Porsches and lambos
meh...if you meet any other engineering school or business school or any other school student with a paid professional internship, it's not like you begrudge them.
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 2:37 pm
by pdub
TDub wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 2:09 pm
of course NIL impacts fans enthusiasm. Its easier to cheer for your "peers" than for professionals you see on campus (or rather, advwrtisements on campus) in Porsches and lambos
Yup.
It’s silly to think there isn’t a link.
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 2:49 pm
by mjl2
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 2:21 pm
mjl2 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 1:53 pm
So keeping players is bad and losing players is bad?
Winning is good; losing is bad. It’s really that simple.
Got it, you're only a fan when we're number one.
You're a terrible fan.
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 2:49 pm
by mjl2
You can't get rid of 1000 seats and wonder why 1000 fewer people are cheering.
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 3:13 pm
by JKLivin
mjl2 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 2:49 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 2:21 pm
mjl2 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 1:53 pm
So keeping players is bad and losing players is bad?
Winning is good; losing is bad. It’s really that simple.
Got it, you're only a fan when we're number one.
You're a terrible fan.
I’m still a fan, I’m just honest about what I see.
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 3:32 pm
by jfish26
BiggDick wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 1:54 pm
I just dunno how much NIL affects the enthusiasm of most fans.
I do think the portal may have a slightly more significant effect, since maybe some fans aren't as interested when there's so many new faces to learn.
But I still think the strongest correlation is the on-court product. If the game is exciting, then the fans will get excited.
Agree with all of this.
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 3:33 pm
by TDub
BiggDick wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 2:35 pm
TDub wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 2:09 pm
of course NIL impacts fans enthusiasm. Its easier to cheer for your "peers" than for professionals you see on campus (or rather, advwrtisements on campus) in Porsches and lambos
meh...if you meet any other engineering school or business school or any other school student with a paid professional internship, it's not like you begrudge them.
do you see them in Cane's chicken commercials? and rwad about they're multi millionaire dollar deals in the paper weekly? Do you go line up, camp and pay to cheer them on at their internships?
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 4:08 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
Whah whah whah whah whah. Blah blah blah blah blah.
I am as guilty of being a bitch as anyone/everyone but my God, is there anything good about being a fan of the KU Basketball team in 2025? I seriously question if people answer - no.
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 4:14 pm
by pdub
I still like Bill Self.
I like Dajuan Harris and KJ Adams.
I like Zeke Mayo.
Flory is fine.
I don’t care that much if we win anything really.
The end.
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 4:15 pm
by DeletedUser
mjl2 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 2:49 pm
You can't get rid of 1000 seats and wonder why 1000 fewer people are cheering.
True. Especially because they got rid of loud seats. Not seat back blue hairs.
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 4:51 pm
by BiggDick
pdub wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 4:14 pm
I don’t care that much if we win anything really.
for real, what do you think we even play the games for, participation trophies?
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 5:01 pm
by TDub
pdub wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 4:14 pm
I still like Bill Self.
I like Dajuan Harris and KJ Adams.
I like Zeke Mayo.
Flory is fine.
I don’t care that much if we win anything really.
The end.
I like Shak...he plays hard and seems to genuinely care
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 5:02 pm
by KUTradition
pdub wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 1:41 pm
mjl2 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 1:40 pm
If you need to be in the top five for the fans to be excited, then the fanbase is absolute garbage
mjl is so very correct here.
Get over yourselves.
^^^^^