Re: Vivek ramaswamy
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2023 5:47 pm
and here i thought that was just a fancy way of calling someone a fattyFeral wrote: *fatuousness the quality of being stupid, not correct, or not carefully thought about
and here i thought that was just a fancy way of calling someone a fattyFeral wrote: *fatuousness the quality of being stupid, not correct, or not carefully thought about
I seriously doubt that any prison time will be served. You’re talking about someone with Secret Service protection, which would mean putting agents behind bars with him. Not gonna happen, even if the kangaroo courts manage a conviction.Feral wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:59 am I don't know and don't care enough about him to say this with any insight, but every time Vivek ratchets up the crazy again, I can't help but think he's auditioning to be the VP candidate on the 78-times indicted for felonies, so-so-victimized, traitor's presidential ticket.
My base guess for some time has been that the unjustly persecuted traitor will choose a woman.
I hope whoever he picks, it will be done so from a prison cell.
Call me an optimist?
What is it specifically that makes these bogus charges? Have you reviewed the indictments and feel that they are weak cases? From what I have seen, it appears that they have very good cases against him for violating the law. It feels like you're just in the "Trump is a divisive politician so this must be political" camp of "logic". Or else you're just in the "own a lib by spouting whatever anti-Democrat propaganda I hear" mode.JKLivin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:07 amI seriously doubt that any prison time will be served. You’re talking about someone with Secret Service protection, which would mean putting agents behind bars with him. Not gonna happen, even if the kangaroo courts manage a conviction.Feral wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:59 am I don't know and don't care enough about him to say this with any insight, but every time Vivek ratchets up the crazy again, I can't help but think he's auditioning to be the VP candidate on the 78-times indicted for felonies, so-so-victimized, traitor's presidential ticket.
My base guess for some time has been that the unjustly persecuted traitor will choose a woman.
I hope whoever he picks, it will be done so from a prison cell.
Call me an optimist?
He's clearly sucking up for a Cabinet position. I don't see Trump giving the VP spot to him.Feral wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:59 am I don't know and don't care enough about him to say this with any insight, but every time Vivek ratchets up the crazy again, I can't help but think he's auditioning to be the VP candidate on the 78-times indicted for felonies, so-so-victimized, traitor's presidential ticket.
My base guess for some time has been that the unjustly persecuted traitor will choose a woman.
I hope whoever he picks, it will be done so from a prison cell.
Call me an optimist?
^^^^This^^^^^randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:32 am The real goal of this whole bullshit indictment situation is to waste his time. Try to smear his name and take away his time and resources from campaigning
The POTUS has the authority to verbally declassify documents. It’s political gamesmanship and a direct thwarting of the will of the people, just like the 2020 election.twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:29 amWhat is it specifically that makes these bogus charges? Have you reviewed the indictments and feel that they are weak cases? From what I have seen, it appears that they have very good cases against him for violating the law. It feels like you're just in the "Trump is a divisive politician so this must be political" camp of "logic". Or else you're just in the "own a lib by spouting whatever anti-Democrat propaganda I hear" mode.JKLivin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:07 amI seriously doubt that any prison time will be served. You’re talking about someone with Secret Service protection, which would mean putting agents behind bars with him. Not gonna happen, even if the kangaroo courts manage a conviction.Feral wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:59 am I don't know and don't care enough about him to say this with any insight, but every time Vivek ratchets up the crazy again, I can't help but think he's auditioning to be the VP candidate on the 78-times indicted for felonies, so-so-victimized, traitor's presidential ticket.
My base guess for some time has been that the unjustly persecuted traitor will choose a woman.
I hope whoever he picks, it will be done so from a prison cell.
Call me an optimist?
Yes, I agree with you that there are some practical issues surrounding jailing a former President. But if he is found guilty of multiple counts then I do not see how they cannot do it.
Someone recently got sentenced to 3 years in prison for a fraction of the willful retention of classified documents that Trump is being charged with. And Trump did much more to knowingly obstruct the DoJ in his case. Like with the NCAA, it seems that obstructing an investigation seems to carry more penalty than the infraction itself.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdfl/pr/fo ... -willfully
Hard to say. On one hand I think they both have too big of egos and they would clash but on the other hand Vivek has been very hesitant to ridicule Trump.twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:30 amHe's clearly sucking up for a Cabinet position. I don't see Trump giving the VP spot to him.Feral wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:59 am I don't know and don't care enough about him to say this with any insight, but every time Vivek ratchets up the crazy again, I can't help but think he's auditioning to be the VP candidate on the 78-times indicted for felonies, so-so-victimized, traitor's presidential ticket.
My base guess for some time has been that the unjustly persecuted traitor will choose a woman.
I hope whoever he picks, it will be done so from a prison cell.
Call me an optimist?
I have little doubt that is a PART of the "indictment situation" but if the man is guilty of what he is being accused of and he truly broke the law/s, then his name should be smeared and his time should be taken away from resources and campaigning.randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:32 am The real goal of this whole bullshit indictment situation is to waste his time. Try to smear his name and take away his time and resources from campaigning
Sadly, you could say the same thing about 95% of the other republicans, i.e., cowards, presidential candidate, or not.RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:39 amHard to say. On one hand I think they both have too big of egos and they would clash but on the other hand Vivek has been very hesitant to ridicule Trump.twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:30 amHe's clearly sucking up for a Cabinet position. I don't see Trump giving the VP spot to him.Feral wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:59 am I don't know and don't care enough about him to say this with any insight, but every time Vivek ratchets up the crazy again, I can't help but think he's auditioning to be the VP candidate on the 78-times indicted for felonies, so-so-victimized, traitor's presidential ticket.
My base guess for some time has been that the unjustly persecuted traitor will choose a woman.
I hope whoever he picks, it will be done so from a prison cell.
Call me an optimist?
LOL! "The authority to VERBALLY declassify documents"? I have the authority to verbally say I am the President of the United States.JKLivin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:37 amThe POTUS has the authority to verbally declassify documents. It’s political gamesmanship and a direct thwarting of the will of the people, just like the 2020 election.twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:29 amWhat is it specifically that makes these bogus charges? Have you reviewed the indictments and feel that they are weak cases? From what I have seen, it appears that they have very good cases against him for violating the law. It feels like you're just in the "Trump is a divisive politician so this must be political" camp of "logic". Or else you're just in the "own a lib by spouting whatever anti-Democrat propaganda I hear" mode.
Yes, I agree with you that there are some practical issues surrounding jailing a former President. But if he is found guilty of multiple counts then I do not see how they cannot do it.
Someone recently got sentenced to 3 years in prison for a fraction of the willful retention of classified documents that Trump is being charged with. And Trump did much more to knowingly obstruct the DoJ in his case. Like with the NCAA, it seems that obstructing an investigation seems to carry more penalty than the infraction itself.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdfl/pr/fo ... -willfully
I finally got an answer from randy. Who do you think won the 2020 election for President?JKLivin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:37 amThe POTUS has the authority to verbally declassify documents. It’s political gamesmanship and a direct thwarting of the will of the people, just like the 2020 election.twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:29 amWhat is it specifically that makes these bogus charges? Have you reviewed the indictments and feel that they are weak cases? From what I have seen, it appears that they have very good cases against him for violating the law. It feels like you're just in the "Trump is a divisive politician so this must be political" camp of "logic". Or else you're just in the "own a lib by spouting whatever anti-Democrat propaganda I hear" mode.
Yes, I agree with you that there are some practical issues surrounding jailing a former President. But if he is found guilty of multiple counts then I do not see how they cannot do it.
Someone recently got sentenced to 3 years in prison for a fraction of the willful retention of classified documents that Trump is being charged with. And Trump did much more to knowingly obstruct the DoJ in his case. Like with the NCAA, it seems that obstructing an investigation seems to carry more penalty than the infraction itself.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdfl/pr/fo ... -willfully
At least the tens of millions of dollars and multiple house committees that spent countless hours investigating Hillary never stooped that low, and was time and money well-spent:JKLivin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:35 am^^^^This^^^^^randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:32 am The real goal of this whole bullshit indictment situation is to waste his time. Try to smear his name and take away his time and resources from campaigning