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Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:50 pm
by Mjl
TDub wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:27 pm
so in a small sample size of this board. Myself, fish and Newton have gotten it, all after 2 shots
breakthroughs seem to be not as rare as we were told.
I mean, what you are told is based on who you listen to. With the original strain the moderna/Pfizer/J&J were 95/90/65 percent effective at preventing cases in the trials. With Delta the Israeli data indicated around 50%.
So, I wouldn't consider these breakthrough cases inconsistent with what I heard... But I can't speak for what you heard
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:04 pm
by Overlander
TDub wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:27 pm
so in a small sample size of this board. Myself, fish and Newton have gotten it, all after 2 shots
breakthroughs seem to be not as rare as we were told.
Might have something to do with people being peoplish.
My wife said early on, we will be dealing with strains of this for the better part of our lifetimes.
But, what could she possibly know?
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:08 pm
by PhDhawk
In October you had a 5.8X higher chance of testing positive if you were unvaccinated than fully vaccinated.
Boosters will really complicate the data.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:20 pm
by Mjl
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:08 pm
In October you had a 5.8X higher chance of testing positive if you were unvaccinated than fully vaccinated.
Boosters will really complicate the data.
Why? Israel seemed to get pretty good data about the efficacy of the boosters.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:33 pm
by PhDhawk
Mjl wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:20 pm
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:08 pm
In October you had a 5.8X higher chance of testing positive if you were unvaccinated than fully vaccinated.
Boosters will really complicate the data.
Why? Israel seemed to get pretty good data about the efficacy of the boosters.
Because it creates 4 categories. Unvaxxed, single dose, double vaxxed, triple vaxxed.
4 categories is more complicated than 3.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:45 pm
by Mjl
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:33 pm
Mjl wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:20 pm
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:08 pm
In October you had a 5.8X higher chance of testing positive if you were unvaccinated than fully vaccinated.
Boosters will really complicate the data.
Why? Israel seemed to get pretty good data about the efficacy of the boosters.
Because it creates 4 categories. Unvaxxed, single dose, double vaxxed, triple vaxxed.
4 categories is more complicated than 3.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:54 pm
by sdoyel
Got my booster yesterday around Noon. Arm is sore, but I don’t feel as weird as after my 2nd dose where I got some chills…
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:01 pm
by PhDhawk
Mjl wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:45 pm
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:33 pm
Mjl wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:20 pm
Why? Israel seemed to get pretty good data about the efficacy of the boosters.
Because it creates 4 categories. Unvaxxed, single dose, double vaxxed, triple vaxxed.
4 categories is more complicated than 3.
Yeah, I meant for conversations not compiling data.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:20 pm
by sdoyel
And let me add how amateurish these Covid vaccine cards are… This time the pharmacist simply scribbled my vax info in ballpoint pen.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:28 pm
by PhDhawk
sdoyel wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:20 pm
And let me add how amateurish these Covid vaccine cards are… This time the pharmacist simply scribbled my vax info in ballpoint pen.
Same.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:23 am
by zsn
sdoyel wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:20 pm
And let me add how amateurish these Covid vaccine cards are… This time the pharmacist simply scribbled my vax info in ballpoint pen.
California and other States have a central vaccine record that you can download. It has a QR code and dates of vaccination along with the manufacturer. My booster was in mid November and it was already updated as of yesterday.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:45 am
by NewtonHawk11
sdoyel wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:54 pm
Got my booster yesterday around Noon. Arm is sore, but I don’t feel as weird as after my 2nd dose where I got some chills…
I was planning on getting booster yesterday until this came up.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:53 am
by Cascadia
Mjl wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:50 pm
TDub wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:27 pm
so in a small sample size of this board. Myself, fish and Newton have gotten it, all after 2 shots
breakthroughs seem to be not as rare as we were told.
I mean, what you are told is based on who you listen to. With the original strain the moderna/Pfizer/J&J were 95/90/65 percent effective at preventing cases in the trials. With Delta the Israeli data indicated around 50%.
So, I wouldn't consider these breakthrough cases inconsistent with what I heard... But I can't speak for what you heard
TDub also lives in anti-vaxx country. Think his county is still in the 30% range.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:35 am
by RainbowsandUnicorns
Go to the hospital for something else, get yourself some Covid!
https://chicago.suntimes.com/2021/11/30 ... newsletter
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:39 am
by RainbowsandUnicorns
Cascadia wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:53 am
Mjl wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:50 pm
TDub wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:27 pm
so in a small sample size of this board. Myself, fish and Newton have gotten it, all after 2 shots
breakthroughs seem to be not as rare as we were told.
I mean, what you are told is based on who you listen to. With the original strain the moderna/Pfizer/J&J were 95/90/65 percent effective at preventing cases in the trials. With Delta the Israeli data indicated around 50%.
So, I wouldn't consider these breakthrough cases inconsistent with what I heard... But I can't speak for what you heard
TDub also lives in anti-vaxx country. Think his county is still in the 30% range.
Are you saying only 30% are vaccinated or 30% are unvaccinated? Either way, I have a bad feeling the unvaccinated will continue to use the excuse that vaccinated people can and do still get Covid. Which of course is 100% correct. What they fail to comprehend or care about is how the vaccinated have a lower risk of major complications.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:12 am
by dolomite
Really dumb excuses for not getting vaxxed:
I’m going to wait’n see. ??
We have a lot of allergies
I’m old and I’m going to die anyway
Let the people who really need it get the shot.?
I believe in freedom??
Note, partner and I are vaxxed to the max; Covid(3 shots, pneumovax, flu and Shingrix.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:18 am
by ousdahl
Vaxxed to the max!
Only thing left is to wax yer cracks
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:28 am
by RainbowsandUnicorns
sdoyel wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:20 pm
And let me add how amateurish these Covid vaccine cards are… This time the pharmacist simply scribbled my vax info in ballpoint pen.
YEP! It's a complete BAD joke.
We live in the greatest country in the world. Possibly the dumbest country in the world too.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:30 am
by Overlander
I need to get a shingles vaccine
Fuck my rights
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:43 am
by zsn
If you don’t get the vax how’s the man going to microchip you??