Re: Chiefs 2021
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 9:27 am
Nice pick up. Current rated 32nd best edge in the NFL.
Jones = 39th
Danna = 82nd
Clark = 85th (oof)
Okafor = 101st
Jones = 39th
Danna = 82nd
Clark = 85th (oof)
Okafor = 101st
Mahomes was looking to the next receiver way too quick and missing shots. He seems rattled by the poor offensive line protection right now as is playing a little spooked. Then the play calling seems to be failing to get guys open on enough plays. Last year, it seems like there were always guys open. The KC WRs led the league in distance between them and their defenders when they got the ball or some such stat. You'd think that if two safeties just drop 25 yards back to be the cap on the field that the 11 on 9 advantage would result in open guys underneath but KC isn't figuring it out very well right now. And Kelce looked slow and disengaged yesterday. He's either dinged up, not feeling well or mentally frustrated and not locked in.holidaysmore wrote: ↑Tue Nov 02, 2021 8:42 amThat first drive of scripted plays was Andy Reid of old. Then the turnover bug bit. Then for awhile I thought they looked completely lost. The running game looked good for spurts but yeah, way to many times Mahomes looked confused or just didn't have anyone open.NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 02, 2021 8:34 am So... At what point does the buck stop with Andy. It's been players, and then execution issues, but man, the Chiefs have had a soft cover 2 going against them for 5 weeks and NOTHING has changed. Yesterday was a bit better, but it seems like things are not called to beat that defense.
Cover 2 can come at you in a lot of different ways and without seeing the All 22 I'm assuming they are seeing everything. I know this, I freaking love Patrick. Zero doubt about that but he simply has to play better. Far too many times I saw him complete passes but they were behind or not in stride. If teams are going to play conservative you may get two or three times to catch them in man coverage. When you get that chance you have to make the play. He missed Tyreek on a shot that could have completely flipped the game.
Right now, at least what I see is they have to win on first down. If they get a second and long which turns into a third and long with the coverages they are seeing guys either aren't getting open or the offensive line isn't holding up thus making Mahomes press to make plays. Those Mahomes Magic of old are gone.
But it's not front loaded.Sparko wrote: ↑Tue Nov 02, 2021 8:46 am The schedule this year was so front-loaded that there just wasn't any room for error. Even so, the Chiefs should be 6-2. I am not going to flip out about the seven ricochet interceptions. Sorenson playing is another story. Kelce needs to heal. The Chiefs lack some talent and the band-aid fell off. They need to let Mahomes work behind a good run scheme and it will work out.
I was where you are a couple weeks back, but (1) at some point the sloppiness with the ball is who you are, and isn't fluky, and (2) Patrick just looks broken. He's scurrying from clean pockets for no reason (as if ghosts of February are chasing him), and his accuracy is dreadful.Cascadia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 02, 2021 8:35 amI disagree. I don't think the Chiefs have been nearly as bad as the narrative around them. They should be 6-2 while playing the hardest schedule in the league. They CEH fumble against Baltimore and the horrible combination of PI against KC and the no call against SD cost the Chiefs 2 wins.
It is what it is, one of the many reasons why the NFL is far and away the best league in the US. KC has been wildly unlucky this season while also being incredible stubborn offensively. They've also been banged up all season. Not as good of a team as they've been the last couple of years, but they're also not a "7 win ceiling" team either.
I've said this a few times, but it's worth repeating. Football makes people dumb. They is so little context among football fans. Everything is hot takes and overreactions.
I also agree that Mahomes leaves the pocket to often for no reason.jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:06 amI was where you are a couple weeks back, but (1) at some point the sloppiness with the ball is who you are, and isn't fluky, and (2) Patrick just looks broken. He's scurrying from clean pockets for no reason (as if ghosts of February are chasing him), and his accuracy is dreadful.Cascadia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 02, 2021 8:35 amI disagree. I don't think the Chiefs have been nearly as bad as the narrative around them. They should be 6-2 while playing the hardest schedule in the league. They CEH fumble against Baltimore and the horrible combination of PI against KC and the no call against SD cost the Chiefs 2 wins.
It is what it is, one of the many reasons why the NFL is far and away the best league in the US. KC has been wildly unlucky this season while also being incredible stubborn offensively. They've also been banged up all season. Not as good of a team as they've been the last couple of years, but they're also not a "7 win ceiling" team either.
I've said this a few times, but it's worth repeating. Football makes people dumb. They is so little context among football fans. Everything is hot takes and overreactions.
Don't get me wrong - he'd go 1-1 in any league redraft, and nothing short of catastrophic injury could change that in the short-term.
But he just looks wrong right now.
The Chiefs played every AFC division leader early. So no fast start. Then the next phase is brutal too. But they were blessed with easier starts up till this year. Honestly, no margin for mediocrity all year.twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:40 amBut it's not front loaded.Sparko wrote: ↑Tue Nov 02, 2021 8:46 am The schedule this year was so front-loaded that there just wasn't any room for error. Even so, the Chiefs should be 6-2. I am not going to flip out about the seven ricochet interceptions. Sorenson playing is another story. Kelce needs to heal. The Chiefs lack some talent and the band-aid fell off. They need to let Mahomes work behind a good run scheme and it will work out.
It doesn't get any easier in the middle or at the end. The next three games are against teams that are a combined 28-4 and are all in first place in their division. Then we finish with every remaining team being .500 or above.
It's just loaded.
That one kills me. He was even camped where the deep ball was thrown yesterday. He let the receiver get inside him. He grabbed the receiver anyway. Then dropped the ball into the receivers hands. And tackled him ever so gently. May have been the weirdest coverage yet by a guy who should play only on special teams. He seems to be the Vegas guy on the inside this year.
Nothing says upgrade like a 34 year old former speedster . Isn't he just an older version of Hardman? This team just needs to clean up what they are doing, not change up the parts and try to figure out how to work with them. The OL needs to communicate better and improve their technique. Mahomes needs to clean up his footwork, stop turning it over and stop getting panicky in the pocket and our existing receivers need to run their routes better, catch the damn ball when it comes to them and stop turning it over. And getting CEH back would help as well.