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Re: 2024

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 11:33 am
by Shirley
Man, DeSantis underperforming, much? (from the Hill)

Former President Trump is widely leading the 2024 GOP field in New Hampshire, but a poll released Monday shows Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie tied for second.

A NH Journal/co-efficient poll found Trump receiving 43 percent in New Hampshire, with Christie and DeSantis tied next in second place at 9 percent. Former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley received 7 percent...

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 11:43 am
by JKLivin
Feral wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2023 11:33 am Man, DeSantis underperforming, much? (from the Hill)

Former President Trump is widely leading the 2024 GOP field in New Hampshire, but a poll released Monday shows Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie tied for second.

A NH Journal/co-efficient poll found Trump receiving 43 percent in New Hampshire, with Christie and DeSantis tied next in second place at 9 percent. Former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley received 7 percent...
DeSantis has about the same charisma as your average potato, or, 25% more than Mike Pence. He doesn't inspire an emotional response. Reminds me of Al Gore.

Christie will never be viable because he is grossly overweight and it is difficult to respect someone with no self-discipline whatsoever. Trump is no supermodel, but he looks better than Christie.

I think a Trump/Ramaswamy ticket is viable. Vivek has said he is open to being the Veep, as has Tim Scott. Either one would help improve Trump's prospects among minority voters.

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 11:48 am
by twocoach
JKLivin wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2023 11:43 am
Feral wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2023 11:33 am Man, DeSantis underperforming, much? (from the Hill)

Former President Trump is widely leading the 2024 GOP field in New Hampshire, but a poll released Monday shows Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie tied for second.

A NH Journal/co-efficient poll found Trump receiving 43 percent in New Hampshire, with Christie and DeSantis tied next in second place at 9 percent. Former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley received 7 percent...
DeSantis has about the same charisma as your average potato, or, 25% more than Mike Pence. He doesn't inspire an emotional response. Reminds me of Al Gore.

Christie will never be viable because he is grossly overweight and it is difficult to respect someone with no self-discipline whatsoever. Trump is no supermodel, but he looks better than Christie.

I think a Trump/Ramaswamy ticket is viable. Vivek has said he is open to being the Veep, as has Tim Scott. Either one would help improve Trump's prospects among minority voters.
They may pick up some minority votes but would definitely also lose some racist votes. He'll pick Haley because it makes Trump's balls tingle to stand close to her.

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 11:49 am
by jfish26
JKLivin wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2023 11:43 am
Feral wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2023 11:33 am Man, DeSantis underperforming, much? (from the Hill)

Former President Trump is widely leading the 2024 GOP field in New Hampshire, but a poll released Monday shows Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie tied for second.

A NH Journal/co-efficient poll found Trump receiving 43 percent in New Hampshire, with Christie and DeSantis tied next in second place at 9 percent. Former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley received 7 percent...
DeSantis has about the same charisma as your average potato, or, 25% more than Mike Pence. He doesn't inspire an emotional response. Reminds me of Al Gore.

Christie will never be viable because he is grossly overweight and it is difficult to respect someone with no self-discipline whatsoever. Trump is no supermodel, but he looks better than Christie.

I think a Trump/Ramaswamy ticket is viable. Vivek has said he is open to being the Veep, as has Tim Scott. Either one would help improve Trump's prospects among minority voters.
Vivek seems too smart to actually hitch a wagon to Trump, when he can get 95% of the mileage from taking a softer approach. I also think Vivek does not actually have designs on elected office.

Scott seems to be positioning himself for a post-Trump world. I don’t think that’s a winning move, but it’s a better political move than tying yourself to a sinking ship.

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:33 pm
by Shirley
I have a hard time imagining that a large majority of republicans would be fine with having Vivek, a Hindu, as their VP.

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:37 pm
by JKLivin
twocoach wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2023 11:48 am
JKLivin wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2023 11:43 am
Feral wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2023 11:33 am Man, DeSantis underperforming, much? (from the Hill)

Former President Trump is widely leading the 2024 GOP field in New Hampshire, but a poll released Monday shows Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie tied for second.

A NH Journal/co-efficient poll found Trump receiving 43 percent in New Hampshire, with Christie and DeSantis tied next in second place at 9 percent. Former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley received 7 percent...
DeSantis has about the same charisma as your average potato, or, 25% more than Mike Pence. He doesn't inspire an emotional response. Reminds me of Al Gore.

Christie will never be viable because he is grossly overweight and it is difficult to respect someone with no self-discipline whatsoever. Trump is no supermodel, but he looks better than Christie.

I think a Trump/Ramaswamy ticket is viable. Vivek has said he is open to being the Veep, as has Tim Scott. Either one would help improve Trump's prospects among minority voters.
They may pick up some minority votes but would definitely also lose some racist votes. He'll pick Haley because it makes Trump's balls tingle to stand close to her.
Haley or Noem would definitely pick up the hawt vote.

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:43 pm
by MICHHAWK
currently we have a dufus for a vp. living proof that vp does not matter.

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:00 pm
by jfish26
MICHHAWK wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:43 pm currently we have a dufus for a vp. living proof that vp does not matter.
Seems to matter quite a lot to Biden's critics.

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:12 pm
by Shirley
Hillary

Pelosi

Kamala

All the worst of the worst.

If only their was a tell, a pattern...

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:24 pm
by Shirley
Campaigns that are doing well don't fire their manager and hire someone with no previous campaign experience?

Who knew?


Re: 2024

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:31 pm
by jfish26
That candidacy is that special kind of dead, where the candidate doesn't yet know it.

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:42 pm
by Shirley
jfish26 wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:31 pm That candidacy is that special kind of dead, where the candidate doesn't yet know it.
I hope he doesn't drop out until after he's hung in there way too long so he'll thoroughly humiliate himself, and be rendered an unlikely candidate in the future.

I can dream, can't I?

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 4:25 pm
by zsn
JKLivin wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2023 9:47 am
zsn wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2023 9:00 am
JKLivin wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2023 7:56 am

If you all are so much smarter and morally superior, why are you so afraid?
You still didn’t answer my question about who do you think won the 2020 election for president.
Trump, of course.
I hope you’re being snarky. For your sake.

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 6:01 pm
by Sparko
Manafort must be busy

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 6:12 pm
by JKLivin
zsn wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2023 4:25 pm
JKLivin wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2023 9:47 am
zsn wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2023 9:00 am

You still didn’t answer my question about who do you think won the 2020 election for president.
Trump, of course.
I hope you’re being snarky. For your sake.
That sounds a little like a threat.

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 6:18 pm
by japhy
Feral wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:42 pm
jfish26 wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:31 pm That candidacy is that special kind of dead, where the candidate doesn't yet know it.
I hope he doesn't drop out until after he's hung in there way too long so he'll thoroughly humiliate himself, and be rendered an unlikely candidate in the future.

I can dream, can't I?
Likely on a national level, sure. But you get to watch him crawl around on his belly in the pond scum for another couple of decades in Florida.

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 6:53 pm
by Shirley
japhy wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2023 6:18 pm
Feral wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:42 pm
jfish26 wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:31 pm That candidacy is that special kind of dead, where the candidate doesn't yet know it.
I hope he doesn't drop out until after he's hung in there way too long so he'll thoroughly humiliate himself, and be rendered an unlikely candidate in the future.

I can dream, can't I?
Likely on a national level, sure. But you get to watch him crawl around on his belly in the pond scum for another couple of decades in Florida.
That's my greatest fear, that he'll grow legs and never exit the political scene here, in a second-coming of Rick Scott. Scott, the former CEO of a co. guilty of Medicare fraud and given the largest fine in Medicare fraud history, > $1.7 Billion dollars, before being elected Florida Governor because




low bar.

But, rumor has it that republicans, donors, and members of his party in the state legislature are tired of his hair-brained, never-ending war(s) on "woke", agree he has little to no personality and what he does have would not be characterized as winsome, and are anxiously hoping for his demise, which appears ever more possible in light of the stunning weakness he's showed so far in the presidential primary.

The state isn't lacking in ambitious fascists eager to take Ron's place, should cult leader Trump allow it...

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 7:51 pm
by Shirley
Time for republicans to turn up the heat on Hunter and "The Biden Crime Family" to 11, lest their war on a woman's right to choose becomes an important issue for voters in 2024...

hahahahahahahahahaha!

Dog, meet car, much?

70 ____ing percent!

Time to read the room, maybe?


Re: 2024

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 8:15 pm
by jfish26
Feral wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2023 7:51 pm Time for republicans to turn up the heat on Hunter and "The Biden Crime Family" to 11, lest their war on a woman's right to choose becomes an important issue for voters in 2024...

hahahahahahahahahaha!

Dog, meet car, much?

70 ____ing percent!

Time to read the room, maybe?

Genuine question - what’s the most recent major ballot measure that went in favor of the Rs?

The jig is up, and it’s going to be loss after loss after loss after loss after loss until the earlier of (1) they successfully enact suppression measures, or (2) they realize that the culture wars well is Arizona-dry.

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 8:24 pm
by Shirley
jfish26 wrote:"Genuine question - what’s the most recent major ballot measure that went in favor of the Rs?"
Now, now. Let's not get carried away, and let emotion overcome us in our euphoria at today's result in red Ohio.

After all, republicans did win the presidential popular vote once out of the last 8 elections, since 1992.