Charges

[KUTradition]

his dye job is gonna suffer

[Shirley]

his dye job is gonna suffer

I read that, see Rudy's dye running down his cheeks, and remember him speaking to his assistant, "big tits", like he did in that recording, "they're mine", and then it gets worse to realize there are people on this message board who believe the shit Rudy and Sidney Powell, et al have saying in support of Trump's big lie for over two years now without any evidence, and want to vomit.

WTAF?

[japhy]

Well if they are gonna play it that way then Lord trump is gonna finally release the kraken, cuz he has one, and he has been hiding it in Sydney Powell's underwear drawer long enough!

“A Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable REPORT on the Presidential Election Fraud which took place in Georgia is almost complete & will be presented by me at a major News Conference at 11:00 A.M. on Monday of next week in Bedminster, New Jersey,... Based on the results of this CONCLUSIVE Report, all charges should be dropped against me & others — There will be a complete EXONERATION! They never went after those that Rigged the Election,...They only went after those that fought to find the RIGGERS!”

Glad spellcheck caught him before he sent out something bad.

https://www.aol.com/news/trump-report-m ... 16500.html

This will be nothing less than COMPLETE EXONERATION of lord trump and VINDICATION for our resident beta cultboys.

Let's hope that Fox and OAN are there to broadcast every word of this large, complex, detailed and irrefutable report as he paraphrases it!

And hopefully he will give us an update on the DA's sex life as well.

[Shirley]

Apparently, there's a rube born every minute, and Trump's there to take them. It's one thing for the cultists to keep ponying up to support Trump's Medicine Show, but you'd think the people helping him promote the Big Lies, the people whose law licenses are being suspended and are now charged with crimes, would know better. Wouldn't you?

Trump stiffed his alleged co-conspirators, whose false claims brought in $250 million

Several of the attorneys who spearheaded President Donald Trump’s frenzied effort to overturn the results of the 2020 election tried, and failed, to collect payment for the work they did for Trump’s political operation, according to testimony to congressional investigators and Federal Election Commission records. This is despite the fact that their lawsuits and false claims of election interference helped the Trump campaign and allied committees raise $250 million in the weeks following the November vote, the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol riot said in its final report.

Among them was Trump’s closest ally, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani. Trump and Giuliani had a handshake agreement that Giuliani and his team would get paid by the Trump political operation for their post-election work, according to Timothy Parlatore, an attorney for longtime Giuliani ally Bernard Kerik.

But the Trump campaign and its affiliated committees ultimately did not honor that pledge, according to campaign finance records. The records show that Giuliani’s companies were only reimbursed for travel and not the $20,000 a day he requested to be paid.

Parlatore also told CNBC that the Giuliani operation was never compensated for its work. According to Parlatore, the failure to pay Giuliani and his team came up last week in a private interview between prosecutors on special counsel Jack Smith’s team and Kerik, a member of Giuliani’s team in late 2020.

“Lawyers and law firms that didn’t do s--- were paid lots of money and the people that worked their ass off, got nothing,” Kerik complained in a 2021 tweet.

Bob Costello, Giuliani’s attorney, declined to comment further about the agreement, citing privileged conversations between his client and then-President Trump.

Trump has a long history of not paying his bills. But the revelation that he likely stiffed Giuliani, a longtime friend, is all the more striking given that much of the work Giuliani did for the Trump operation is detailed in a sprawling RICO indictment in Georgia released Monday, in which Giuliani is a co-defendant alongside Trump and 17 other people.

The indictment details trips Giuliani made, phone calls he placed and meetings he attended, all in service of what prosecutors say was a criminal conspiracy to overturn the election.

[jhawks99]

Dumb lawyers for not getting paid upfront. No wonder they got busted.

[Shirley]

Dumb lawyers for not getting paid upfront. No wonder they got busted.

After being played like that, who could ever hire them with any confidence in the future?

I haven't looked, but isn't mitigating losses as much as possible in the Lawyering for Dummies Handbook, under Dos?

[KUTradition]

lol…i read that as 2

[Shirley]

lol…i read that as 2

I wasn't sure how to spell it, so I looked it up. I had to search for "Dos and Don'ts", to find it.

[twocoach]

Apparently, there's a rube born every minute, and Trump's there to take them. It's one thing for the cultists to keep ponying up to support Trump's Medicine Show, but you'd think the people helping him promote the Big Lies, the people whose law licenses are being suspended and are now charged with crimes, would know better. Wouldn't you?

Trump stiffed his alleged co-conspirators, whose false claims brought in $250 million

Several of the attorneys who spearheaded President Donald Trump’s frenzied effort to overturn the results of the 2020 election tried, and failed, to collect payment for the work they did for Trump’s political operation, according to testimony to congressional investigators and Federal Election Commission records. This is despite the fact that their lawsuits and false claims of election interference helped the Trump campaign and allied committees raise $250 million in the weeks following the November vote, the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol riot said in its final report.

Among them was Trump’s closest ally, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani. Trump and Giuliani had a handshake agreement that Giuliani and his team would get paid by the Trump political operation for their post-election work, according to Timothy Parlatore, an attorney for longtime Giuliani ally Bernard Kerik.

But the Trump campaign and its affiliated committees ultimately did not honor that pledge, according to campaign finance records. The records show that Giuliani’s companies were only reimbursed for travel and not the $20,000 a day he requested to be paid.

Parlatore also told CNBC that the Giuliani operation was never compensated for its work. According to Parlatore, the failure to pay Giuliani and his team came up last week in a private interview between prosecutors on special counsel Jack Smith’s team and Kerik, a member of Giuliani’s team in late 2020.

“Lawyers and law firms that didn’t do s--- were paid lots of money and the people that worked their ass off, got nothing,” Kerik complained in a 2021 tweet.

Bob Costello, Giuliani’s attorney, declined to comment further about the agreement, citing privileged conversations between his client and then-President Trump.

Trump has a long history of not paying his bills. But the revelation that he likely stiffed Giuliani, a longtime friend, is all the more striking given that much of the work Giuliani did for the Trump operation is detailed in a sprawling RICO indictment in Georgia released Monday, in which Giuliani is a co-defendant alongside Trump and 17 other people.

The indictment details trips Giuliani made, phone calls he placed and meetings he attended, all in service of what prosecutors say was a criminal conspiracy to overturn the election.

To be fair, Giuliani did do a shitty job and failed at everything he was tasked to do.

[Shirley]

Excellent point, twocoach!

Uh, oh:

[japhy]

The purported names and addresses of members of the grand jury that indicted Donald Trump and 18 of his co-defendants on state racketeering charges this week have been posted on a fringe website that often features violent rhetoric, NBC News has learned.

NBC News is choosing not to name the website featuring the addresses to avoid further spreading the information.

The Fulton County District Attorney’s Office declined to comment. Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis faced racist threats ahead of the return of the indictment and additional security measures were put in place, with some employees being allowed to work from home.

The grand juror's purported addresses were spotted by Advance Democracy, Inc., a non-partisan research group founded by Daniel J. Jones, a former FBI investigator and staffer for the U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.

“It’s becoming all too commonplace to see everyday citizens performing necessary functions for our democracy being targeted with violent threats by Trump-supporting extremists," Jones said. "The lack of political leadership on the right to denounce these threats — which serve to inspire real-world political violence— is shameful.”

Advance Democracy also noted that users were posting on other social media sites the names and images of people believed to have been grand jurors. The posts asserted that the jurors had posted on social media in support of Sens. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., and Raphael Warnock, D-Ga., former President Barack Obama and the Black Lives Matter movement.

Yesterday — after Trump posted on his social media website that authorities were going "after those that fought to find the RIGGERS!" — Advance Democracy noted that Trump supporters were "using the term ‘rigger’ in lieu of a racial slur" in posts online.

The Fulton County Sheriff's Office, which is handling the surrender of Trump and his co-defendants over the course of the next 10 days, declined to comment.

“We are not commenting on any issues related to grand jury security," said Natalie Ammons, a spokeswoman for the sheriff's office.

The FBI did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The grand jurors have come under attack in the days since Trump's indictment, the fourth criminal indictment brought against the twice-impeached former president.

“These jurors have signed their death warrant by falsely indicting President Trump," read one post on a pro-Trump forum in response to a post including the names of jurors, which was viewed by NBC News.


The important things to keep in mind is that, it is not a cult and both sides do it.

[Shirley]

And yet, the "law and order party" members do nothing.

smfh

[Shirley]

Aug 16, 2023
Two days before the 2020 election was called, Roger Stone laid out a fake electors plot to defraud states of their votes and secure a victory for Donald Trump.

This is damning evidence

[japhy]

But if we are being intellectually honest, I think we can all agree it is both sides. Did she call the judge a "RIGGER"?

A Texas woman was arrested and has been charged with threatening to kill the federal judge overseeing the criminal case against former President Donald Trump in Washington and a member of Congress.

Abigail Jo Shry of Alvin, Texas, called the federal courthouse in Washington and left the threatening message — using a racist term for U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan — on Aug. 5, court records show. Investigators traced her phone number and she later admitted to making the threatening call, according to a criminal complaint.

In the call, Shry told the judge, who is overseeing the election conspiracy case against Trump, “You are in our sights, we want to kill you," the documents said. Prosecutors allege Shry also said, “If Trump doesn't get elected in 2024, we are coming to kill you," and she threatened to kill U.S. Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, a Texas Democrat running for mayor of Houston, according to court documents.

A judge earlier this week ordered Shry jailed. Court records show Shry is represented by the Houston public defender’s office, which did not immediately return a message seeking comment on Wednesday.

Trump has publicly assailed Chutkan, a former assistant public defender who was nominated to the bench by President Barack Obama, calling her “highly partisan” and “ VERY BIASED & UNFAIR!” because of her past comments in a separate case overseeing the sentencing of one of the defendants charged in the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the U.S. Capitol.

Chutkan in a hearing Friday imposed a protective order in the case limiting what evidence handed over by prosecutors the former president and his legal team can publicly disclose. She warned Trump’s lawyers that his defense should be mounted in the courtroom and “not on the internet.”

[Shirley]

Dumb lawyers for not getting paid upfront. No wonder they got busted.

^^^

[Shirley]

August 17, 2023-Over the last few years much has been written about what happened to Rudy Giuliani. This analysis always overlooks that Giuliani was always a bigot and frequently contemptuous of democracy.

[Shirley]

[Shirley]

[twocoach]

We had a chance to flush the Trump turd down the toilet when that Access Hollywood video hit. If that would have been the end of Trump as it should have been then the country and world would be in an infinitely better place. That we have allowed this turd to fester and rot is on 2016 Republican primary voters.

Even if Trump loses this next election, his stink will not clear from the air. He has poisoned this nation and it will take decades for that poison to run through our system and it may never be the same.

[jfish26]

We had a chance to flush the Trump turd down the toilet when that Access Hollywood video hit. If that would have been the end of Trump as it should have been then the country and world would be in an infinitely better place. That we have allowed this turd to fester and rot is on 2016 Republican primary voters.

Even if Trump loses this next election, his stink will not clear from the air. He has poisoned this nation and it will take decades for that poison to run through our system and it may never be the same.

I agree that the nation will never be the same.

But, Trump was more symptom than disease. I think history will show that we got extraordinarily lucky that the Rs gave Trump the keys to the machine.

And then lucky again when, bafflingly, the Rs passed on their chance to purge Trump in the second impeachment.

And then lucky again when, bafflingly, the Rs grossly miscalculated the disastrous effect of “winning” on abortion.