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Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 5:25 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
I have several co-workers and several family members who have Covid. Seems it's getting worse by the day. Thankfully these people are "fully" vaccinated and their cases are not requiring hospitalization - at this time. My main concern is my mother who I feel it's inevitable she will contract it in the next month before she is supposed to move.
What's baffling to me is that there are so many virus "experts" in this country that are proving they are clueless in regards to Covid.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:32 pm
by zsn
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 5:25 pm
What's baffling to me is that there are so many virus "experts" in this country that are proving they are clueless in regards to Covid.
Unfortunately Gutter Science doesn’t work like that. Scientists are not omniscient or omnipotent, especially this early on (it’s still early in this pandemic, relatively speaking). Throw on top of it a sizable proportion of the population which won’t accept basic advice…..
We’re lucky we are not seeing more deaths, and it’s in spite of the scientific advances. The “experts” have been exemplary. Just ask PhD
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:34 pm
by jfish26
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 5:25 pm
I have several co-workers and several family members who have Covid. Seems it's getting worse by the day. Thankfully these people are "fully" vaccinated and their cases are not requiring hospitalization - at this time. My main concern is my mother who I feel it's inevitable she will contract it in the next month before she is supposed to move.
What's baffling to me is that there are so many virus "experts" in this country that are proving they are clueless in regards to Covid.
There's very good money in being a fake expert.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 10:17 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
zsn wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:32 pm
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 5:25 pm
What's baffling to me is that there are so many virus "experts" in this country that are proving they are clueless in regards to Covid.
Unfortunately Gutter Science doesn’t work like that. Scientists are not omniscient or omnipotent, especially this early on (it’s still early in this pandemic, relatively speaking). Throw on top of it a sizable proportion of the population which won’t accept basic advice…..
We’re lucky we are not seeing more deaths, and it’s in spite of the scientific advances. The “experts” have been exemplary. Just ask PhD
I don't disagree with what you say.
Just one of the many things I feel people were being misled about is vaccinations. People were given a false sense of security (and immunity) if vaccinated.
I understand the desire to keep as many people out of the Hospital as possible (despite that being how hospitals make money) but what is the NEED for people to be vaccinated against their will?
Especially when people who are vaccinated are still contracting and spreading the virus.
I have a co-worker who is basically being shown the door because she's not vaccinated.
Meanwhile, I can still contract the virus in my office (and we have had people at work who tested positive within a day of their being in the office) from someone who is vaccinated.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:50 pm
by zsn
People were given accurate information based on available knowledge. Scientists could not have predicted that Idiocracy was a documentary. Vaccination resistance led to the virus mutating and spreading
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2021 5:19 am
by Deleted User 863
zsn wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:50 pm
Vaccination resistance led to the virus mutating and spreading
That was more than likely going to happen regardless of the vaccine resistance in the United States. Many of the mutations are occuring in countries where it's not vaccine resistance as much as it is vaccine availability keeping vaccination rates low. This is a global pandemic. We can get to 100% vaccination in our country, but when the majority of the world lags behind then the pandemic continues.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2021 6:55 am
by jhawks99
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 10:17 pm
zsn wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:32 pm
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 5:25 pm
What's baffling to me is that there are so many virus "experts" in this country that are proving they are clueless in regards to Covid.
Unfortunately Gutter Science doesn’t work like that. Scientists are not omniscient or omnipotent, especially this early on (it’s still early in this pandemic, relatively speaking). Throw on top of it a sizable proportion of the population which won’t accept basic advice…..
We’re lucky we are not seeing more deaths, and it’s in spite of the scientific advances. The “experts” have been exemplary. Just ask PhD
I don't disagree with what you say.
Just one of the many things I feel people were being misled about is vaccinations. People were given a false sense of security (and immunity) if vaccinated.
I understand the desire to keep as many people out of the Hospital as possible (despite that being how hospitals make money) but what is the NEED for people to be vaccinated against their will?
Especially when people who are vaccinated are still contracting and spreading the virus.
I have a co-worker who is basically being shown the door because she's not vaccinated.
Meanwhile, I can still contract the virus in my office (and we have had people at work who tested positive within a day of their being in the office) from someone who is vaccinated.
At the hospital where Mrs 99 works ( I need an acronym for this) 100% of patients on vents are unvaccinated.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:20 am
by Cascadia
zsn wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:50 pm
People were given accurate information based on available knowledge. Scientists could not have predicted that Idiocracy was a documentary. Vaccination resistance led to the virus mutating and spreading
It's astonishing how difficult this is to understand. But, trumpers gonna trump
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:54 am
by sdoyel
zsn wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:50 pm
People were given accurate information based on available knowledge. Scientists could not have predicted that Idiocracy was a documentary. Vaccination resistance led to the virus mutating and spreading
…ToO mUch SEnSe…
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2021 6:42 pm
by sdoyel
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2021 6:43 pm
by Deleted User 863
17% of Americans fully vaccinated + boosted
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:26 am
by zsn
At least 200 million idiot adults in the USA
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:33 am
by ousdahl
800k deaths surpassed. And that’s the ones we actually counted.
More than any other country.
Merican exceptionalism woo!
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:55 am
by TDub
which ones didn't we count?
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:39 pm
by Deleted User 863
TDub wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:55 am
which ones didn't we count?
Qs back
Sounds kinda like the widespread voter fraud conspiracy that ended up being a relatively insignificant amount of instances actually occurring.
The amount counted that shouldn't have been and the amount that should have been counted but weren't counted are insignificant numbers compared to the actual amount that died/counted and should have counted.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:43 pm
by ousdahl
The US is undercounting COVID deaths, researchers say. Now they have a tool to figure out why.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 435124001/
Covid cases in US may have been undercounted by 60%, study shows
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... nted-study
Undercounting of COVID-19 pandemic deaths by country
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underco ... by_country
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:49 pm
by ousdahl
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:39 pm
TDub wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:55 am
which ones didn't we count?
Qs back
Sounds kinda like the widespread voter fraud conspiracy that ended up being a relatively insignificant amount of it actually occurring.
The amount counted that shouldn't have been and the amount that should have been counted but weren't counted are insignificant numbers compared to the actual amount that died/counted and should have.
wut
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:49 pm
by Deleted User 863
Woah we went from deaths to cases in a hurry there Q...
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:52 pm
by Deleted User 863
ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:49 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:39 pm
TDub wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:55 am
which ones didn't we count?
Qs back
Sounds kinda like the widespread voter fraud conspiracy that ended up being a relatively insignificant amount of it actually occurring.
The amount counted that shouldn't have been and the amount that should have been counted but weren't counted are insignificant numbers compared to the actual amount that died/counted and should have.
wut
There have been deaths counted as covid deaths that shouldn't have been counted as covid deaths.
There have also been deaths not counted as covid deaths that actually should have been counted as covid deaths.
Both of those numbers are insignificant relative to the actual amount of covid deaths that have occured.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:08 pm
by Cascadia
The guardian, usa today and wiki are all seen as fake news by TrumperDub and his minion.