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Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:08 pm
by ousdahl
Ok. Most of that is pretty much what I suggested, except for the false positive “shouldn’t have been counted” ones you mention.

Not sure why you responded with Q conspiracy accusations like it was some pols bored both sides voter fraud kinda thing.

So you have any info about deaths counted as covid deaths event though they weren’t, or shouldn’t have been?

(Responding to illy)

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:15 pm
by Deleted User 863
LOL

There's no widespread conspiracy going on to over report or under report covid deaths. The VAST majority are reported correctly. And that's terrible because it's a lot of deaths.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:18 pm
by ousdahl
So you have any info about deaths counted as covid deaths event though they weren’t, or shouldn’t have been?


aaand heads up bro. You’re the one who brought up conspiracies.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:26 pm
by Deleted User 863
ousdahl wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:18 pm aaand heads up bro. You’re the one who brought up conspiracies.
Oh really?...
ousdahl wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:33 am 800k deaths surpassed. And that’s the ones we actually counted.

More than any other country.

Merican exceptionalism woo!

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:33 pm
by ousdahl
Yeah, that’s pretty much the same thing as saying the election was stolen.

BRB gotta go storm the Capitol.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:02 pm
by Deleted User 863
ousdahl wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:33 pm Yeah, that’s pretty much the same thing as saying the election was stolen.

BRB gotta go storm the Capitol.
It's from the exact same playbook. Exaggerate and overreact.

Thankfully the left would never suggest things like denying medical care to people they didn't agree with. Oh wait.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:03 pm
by TDub
of covid vs with covid makes a true count complicated

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:10 pm
by MICHHAWK
if someone is killed in a motorcycle accident, and they test positive for the china fungus on the slab. the
cause of death on the death certificate will read china fungus.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:14 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
Proof?

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:15 pm
by ProudBoy
From where I come from 20% is almost always significant. It don’t matter if we’re talking funguses or viruses or tips. Is there anyone that would say a 20% increase or decrease in their salary is insignificant? Or since y’all like hoops so much, if a single player changed the points scored by 20%, I bet it would be considered significant.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:15 pm
by Deleted User 863
MICHHAWK wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:10 pm if someone is killed in a motorcycle accident, and they test positive for the china fungus on the slab. the
cause of death on the death certificate will read china fungus.
Among various other things...and again, these instances are rare.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:19 pm
by Cascadia
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:14 pmProof?
lol, you know mich and illy have none that.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:21 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
Cascadia wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:19 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:14 pmProof?
lol, you know mich and illy have none that.
I don't expect mich to respond. He pulled it out of his ass. Probably to give his head more room.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:22 pm
by Deleted User 863
Cascadia wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:19 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:14 pmProof?
lol, you know mich and illy have none that.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:28 pm
by Cascadia
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:22 pm
Cascadia wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:19 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:14 pmProof?
lol, you know mich and illy have none that.
Getting close the the tipping point when homophobe illy comes out

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:30 pm
by zsn
MICHHAWK wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:10 pm if someone is killed in a motorcycle accident, and they test positive for the china fungus on the slab. the
cause of death on the death certificate will read china fungus.
But what happened to the guy who blacked out while riding the motorcycle because he could not breathe and wrapped himself around the back axle of a Freightliner? How does he gets counted?

Actually if it happens in Florida they don’t count anything. So there’s that

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:44 pm
by Deleted User 863
Cascadia wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:28 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:22 pm
Cascadia wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:19 pm

lol, you know mich and illy have none that.
Getting close the the tipping point when homophobe illy comes out
Look at you on your knees again...who knew blowjobs were homophobic! Learn something new everyday I guess.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:53 pm
by twocoach
MICHHAWK wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:10 pm if someone is killed in a motorcycle accident, and they test positive for the china fungus on the slab. the
cause of death on the death certificate will read china fungus.
You are being lied to by your ignorant sources.

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/veri ... ae75c2b2ce



QUESTION:

Are people who have died in car accidents counted as COVID-19 deaths?

ANSWER:

No. There is a two-level system in place to make sure death counts are accurate.

The Verify team found a case in which someone's death after a motor vehicle accident was inaccurately attributed to COVID-19. But that case has since been fixed.

SOURCES:

Dr. Robert Anderson, Chief of the Mortality Statistics Branch for the National Center of Health Statistics at the CDC
Dr. Amesh Adalja, a senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, and an infectious disease physician.
Florida Department of Health in Orange County
Jonn M. Hollenbach, D-ABMDI, Acting Coroner in Berks County, PA



PROCESS:

The Verify team started with a simple Google search.

We found two articles from this year which say that a person who was in a motor vehicle crash was counted as a COVID-19 death. We reached out to health officials in those cases to find out what happened.

In Berks County, Pennsylvania, a local news station reported that a man who was hospitalized after a car accident died of COVID-19.


So what really happened?

We contacted the county coroner, Jonn M. Hollenbach, D-ABMDI, to get more details on the incident. Hollenbach told us first responders were told the man had a coughing spell which caused him to lose consciousness and crash. On the county death certificate, the man's death is labeled as virus-related respiratory failure.

Hollenbach explained further that while the coughing fit happened inside a car, it wasn't the injuries from the car-crash that resulted in his death.

“In this case, the man did not have any life-threatening injuries as a result of the crash," Hollenbach told Verify researchers in an email. "He was tested for COVID-19 upon admission to the hospital due to his symptoms. There was never any report that the crash caused his death."

This past July, Fox 35 Orlando reported that "a person who died in a motorcycle accident was added to Florida’s COVID-19 death count." In an updated story, they say their investigation led to another investigation, and that the death was ultimately removed from the county's COVID-19 death totals.

Verify researchers spoke on the phone with a spokesperson for the Florida Department of Health in Orange County.

They told us the death was initially recorded as a COVID-19 death after the victim tested positive. After the medical examiner and epidemiologist reviewed the death, they say they removed it from the COVID fatality list.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:59 pm
by twocoach

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:13 pm
by PhDhawk
TDub wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:03 pm of covid vs with covid makes a true count complicated
HIV has never killed anyone then.