Kansas Crimson

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:00 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:59 am

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:54 am
no, we shouldn’t

Ok. Fair enough. We agree then. No recreational activities in the desert. People shouldn't live in the desert.

bingo

Did we just become best friends?

If people DO live in the desert, then they need to have an awareness of things like water, and live accordingly.

If your hobby involves massive water consumption to sustain an unnatural landscape, then it’s time to get a new hobby.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:08 am If people DO live in the desert, then they need to have an awareness of things like water, and live accordingly.

If your hobby involves massive water consumption to sustain an unnatural landscape, then it’s time to get a new hobby.

Or it's time to find a new place to live.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:03 am

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:59 am and i literally responded to that post already...you didn’t need i post the link again, as i’ve already got the article pulled up in front of me

unless you just didn’t read my response

I don't read anything you post because i have you on ignore....


(Yes i read it, i tried to post a different link that wasn't behind a paywall, but failed it looks like...shocker right?)

Hey but we've got links and you love links! Well, unless it's links style golf and then it's BAD.

so you did only read the abstract...lol

i said from the get-go that i have nothing against golf. i’ve actually really enjoyed it the few times i’ve played and the handful of times i’ve been to topgolf (yes, i know that’s not the same)

good narrative though...false, but goo effort

You're mad at the golf courses (or basketball arena or football stadium), but you should be mad at the people choosing to live in a desert who want those activities there enough that they pay ridiculous amounts of money for those activities to exist.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:10 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:08 am If people DO live in the desert, then they need to have an awareness of things like water, and live accordingly.

If your hobby involves massive water consumption to sustain an unnatural landscape, then it’s time to get a new hobby.

Or it's time to find a new place to live.

BUT MAH RIGHTS

I mean, yeah, or that.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:12 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:10 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:08 am If people DO live in the desert, then they need to have an awareness of things like water, and live accordingly.

If your hobby involves massive water consumption to sustain an unnatural landscape, then it’s time to get a new hobby.

Or it's time to find a new place to live.

BUT MAH RIGHTS

I mean, yeah, or that.

People also have the right to die in the desert because there is no water.

It isn't peoples rights to have everything they want provided to them. Especially unsustainable things.

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:10 am so you did only read the abstract...lol

Wife has access to jstor.org

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:19 am

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:10 am so you did only read the abstract...lol

Wife has access to jstor.org

ok?

did you actually read the article or not?

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:24 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:19 am

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:10 am so you did only read the abstract...lol

Wife has access to jstor.org

ok?

did you actually read the article or not?

Did you?

LOL i thought you wanted links and articles man?

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:25 am

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:24 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:19 am
Wife has access to jstor.org

ok?

did you actually read the article or not?

Did you?

god, you’re insufferable...i’m going to assume you didn’t, since you deflected and didn’t answer my question

from the article:

A total of 17 case–control studies were found in the literature that described and compared biota on golf courses with other land types. These studies were published between 1996 and 2007 and encompassed 190 golf courses, with ten studies from the United States, and the rest from Europe, Australia, Canada, Japan and Trinidad (WI) (Table 1). Our sample derived mainly from the humid temperate climatic zones, with only two studies covering the dry and humid tropical domains, respectively (studies #5 and #16 in Table 1). We do not claim that we have found all the case–control studies related to biodiversity on golf courses, but a majority of those available in peer-reviewed scientific journals and books...

so, as with all the other links you posted, this one doesn’t address the original topic...water use in the desert

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:26 am LOL i thought you wanted links and articles man?

i want you, and everyone else, to form an informed opinion and not just ignorantly shoot off at the mouth trying to win an argument

links do no good, as evidenced by your own attempt, if you don’t actually read them

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:30 am so, as with all the other links you posted, this one doesn’t address the original topic...water use in the desert

I addressed it. The PEOPLE in the desert are the problem. Not the golf courses. The courses aren't there without the people.

there’s also this gem from your article, illy

The null hypothesis of this study was strongly rejected. Interpretation of the analysis of Pearson’s adjusted residuals provided us with strong evidence that if we were to build a golf course in a natural habitat, we are not likely to experience higher overall ecological values as a result of this change to the landscape. On the other hand, if we build a golf course in an urban area we will most likely be experiencing increasing ecological values.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:38 am

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:30 am so, as with all the other links you posted, this one doesn’t address the original topic...water use in the desert

I addressed it. The PEOPLE in the desert are the problem. Not the golf courses. The courses aren't there without the people.

jfc

“air pollution isn’t the problem, it’s the cars and factories”

see how dumb that sounds?

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:32 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:26 am LOL i thought you wanted links and articles man?

i want you, and everyone else, to form an informed opinion and not just ignorantly shoot off at the mouth trying to win an argument

links do no good, as evidenced by your own attempt, if you don’t actually read them

I read all of them.

You skimmed and ignored.

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:39 am there’s also this gem from your article, illy

The null hypothesis of this study was strongly rejected. Interpretation of the analysis of Pearson’s adjusted residuals provided us with strong evidence that if we were to build a golf course in a natural habitat, we are not likely to experience higher overall ecological values as a result of this change to the landscape. On the other hand, if we build a golf course in an urban area we will most likely be experiencing increasing ecological values.

Yes. Exactly. And i even mentioned something along these lines.

ANY potential land use that disrupts the ecosystem will be negative. ANY land use other than its' natural state.

So yes, if you knock down a forest to build a golf course (or neighborhood or starbucks) you're doing damage. Obviously. But if you're building a golf course in areas occupied by people (which is where golf courses are usually built since they need customers) then often times there can be positive impacts.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:39 am

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:32 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:26 am LOL i thought you wanted links and articles man?

i want you, and everyone else, to form an informed opinion and not just ignorantly shoot off at the mouth trying to win an argument

links do no good, as evidenced by your own attempt, if you don’t actually read them

I read all of them.

You skimmed and ignored.

you’re fucking liar

and all you did was move the goalposts

i’m done

You created the goal posts that the ASCP was the only thing worried about golf courses sustainability and environmental impact and you were wrong. Then it was you who started moving goalposts.