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Proud Boys aka Antifa?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... story.html

Hate crimes rise to highest level in 12 years amid increasing attacks on Blacks, Asians, FBI says

... Attacks targeting Blacks rose from 1,930 to 2,755, and the number targeting Asians jumped from 158 to 274, the data showed. Those figures come as civil rights groups have warned of increasing hostility toward minorities, amid a rise in white nationalism and an increase in violent crime levels nationwide.

Attacks targeting Whites rose to 773, an increase of about 16 percent...

He’s scared AF

sdoyel wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:41 pm He’s scared AF

Is he wrong?

Its amazing to watch everyone (by everyone I mean both dems and pubs) throw away decency and freedoms for the sake of a "team" victory. Our country is fucked.

TDub wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:47 pm

sdoyel wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:41 pm He’s scared AF

Is he wrong?

Its amazing to watch everyone (by everyone I mean both dems and pubs) throw away decency and freedoms for the sake of a "team" victory. Our country is fucked.

Yes, he's wrong

But Democratic house members are able to one up that by praising literal terrorists. The woman referenced here was killed attempting to ram Israeli soldiers with her car.

TDub wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:47 pm

sdoyel wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:41 pm He’s scared AF

Is he wrong?

Its amazing to watch everyone (by everyone I mean both dems and pubs) throw away decency and freedoms for the sake of a "team" victory. Our country is fucked.

Yes, it appears so. They are not attempting to strong arm a company into giving them their records. They are sending written notification to ask them to preserve certain records so that they are available when a legal subpoena for those records is submitted as part of their legal investigation.

To my knowledge, nothing that they are doing violates the law. It is not illegal for carriers to provide call detail records.

https://attorneyatlawmagazine.com/cell- ... egal-cases

"Unlike many other records, wireless phone records or call detail records (CDR), are not protected by the Stored Communications Act and are not protected by the Fourth Amendment. They can be obtained via subpoena or by request of the account holder via a notarized letter.

What do Cell Phone Records Show?

Cell phone records, otherwise known as “Call Detail Records”, show the caller’s phone number, duration of call, start and end time of the call, and the cell phone tower the phone was connected to."

What about this is throwing away "decency" or a person's freedom? Which part of the Constitution is "thou shall have the right to contact domestic terrorists with logistical information that could aid in an attempted insurrection without having your cell phone records reviewed"?

Mjl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:47 pm But Democratic house members are able to one up that by praising literal terrorists. The woman referenced here was killed attempting to ram Israeli soldiers with her car.

Holy shit.

Mjl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:47 pm But Democratic house members are able to one up that by praising literal terrorists. The woman referenced here was killed attempting to ram Israeli soldiers with her car.

Yeah, that's not good. Rep. Tlaib is not one I would be voting for in a reelection campaign. She is constantly lying and misrepresenting things.

We're headed for an Australian style surveillance state

TDub wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:47 pm

sdoyel wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:41 pm He’s scared AF

Is he wrong?

Its amazing to watch everyone (by everyone I mean both dems and pubs) throw away decency and freedoms for the sake of a "team" victory. Our country is fucked.

Phone and computer records are often subpoenaed during criminal investigations. To paraphrase a lot of my republican friends, if they have nothing to hide, what's the problem?

jhawks99 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:32 pm

TDub wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:47 pm

sdoyel wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:41 pm He’s scared AF

Is he wrong?

Its amazing to watch everyone (by everyone I mean both dems and pubs) throw away decency and freedoms for the sake of a "team" victory. Our country is fucked.

Phone and computer records are often subpoenaed during criminal investigations. To paraphrase a lot of my republican friends, if they have nothing to hide, what's the problem?

Yea I didn't realize it was in relation to a specific investigation and subpoena.

My second statement still stands.

Where did he go?

Mjl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:47 pm But Democratic house members are able to one up that by praising literal terrorists. The woman referenced here was killed attempting to ram Israeli soldiers with her car.

I think you know I will side with Israel on most issues but in response to your post I say.....
Ok, and? She's dead. Why not release her body?
Before you respond that Israel often holds bodies of captured "assailants" (dead and alive) as bargaining chips to try and "trade" for Israeli "captives" (dead and alive) held by Hamas, I will ask you - do two wrongs make a right?

As far as Tlaib, we have a quagmire. She's free to express herself no matter how dangerous she and her beliefs may be. She's an elected official so clearly there were people who like and support her and her beliefs. While I feel that's dangerous, that's America in 2021. A too large percentage of our elected officials are dangerous assholes who don't truly have EVERYONE'S best interests in hand and because of it - can cause some serious damage.

It sucks. But is it possible to feel for everyone in the Israel Palestine situation without “taking a side?”

It just seems like a lot of he said she said bullshit. And at this point i dunno if identifying some narrative of “who started it” does much good.

Just yet another humanitarian tragedy. Let’s all try to look forward and get along…and/or just get it all out of our systems in the QT thread

you must be new here

taking sides is apparently all we do

TDub wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:51 pm We're headed for an Australian style surveillance state

https://tutanota.com/blog/posts/austral ... ance-bill/

what are “five eye” countries?

edit: had never heard of the moniker, obviously, but US, UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:51 am It sucks. But is it possible to feel for everyone in the Israel Palestine situation without “taking a side?”

It just seems like a lot of he said she said bullshit. And at this point i dunno if identifying some narrative of “who started it” does much good.

Just yet another humanitarian tragedy. Let’s all try to look forward and get along…and/or just get it all out of our systems in the QT thread

Has nothing to do with Israel or Palestine, that's just the setting. Regardless of the setting, that's a sitting MoC praising a terrorist. It's similar to, but actually even a little worse, than the pubs that do the same with Ashley Babbitt

TDub wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:28 am

TDub wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:51 pm We're headed for an Australian style surveillance state

https://tutanota.com/blog/posts/austral ... ance-bill/

That's insane.