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Re: NCAA Tournament 2021

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:20 pm
by pdub
So KU has the 2nd place PAC12 team followed by the 1st place PAC12 team.

Re: NCAA Tournament 2021

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:22 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
vega wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:16 pm Why does Dana Altman not get his name thrown around more? Seems like he would've been a good fit for that second tier of schools.
His age.


I also think he probably think Oregon belongs in that second tier with the $.

Re: NCAA Tournament 2021

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:24 pm
by twocoach
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:11 pm
InfiniteJ wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:09 pm
jfish26 wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:00 pm There is no way this doesn't end in disaster for us. I've seen this movie too many times.
Kenpom expects as much, but fuckin' ORU is in the Sweet 16, so who the hell knows?
What is clear is that this tournament was very mis-seeded, but I'll give the committee a pass on that just this once.
Just depends on if you see seeding as the reward for the resume you built or a ranking of teams in ability from 1-68. They seem to be trying to get away from the predictive measures and more towards concrete data supported measurements so I'd suspect that this will be more the norm moving forward.

I don't think the giant piles of upsets will be as large once elite teams are able to practice like normal. COVID leveled the field big time this year.

Re: NCAA Tournament 2021

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:26 pm
by pdub
Nature of the tournament mixed with a wonky season.

Re: NCAA Tournament 2021

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:29 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
twocoach wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:24 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:11 pm
InfiniteJ wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:09 pm

Kenpom expects as much, but fuckin' ORU is in the Sweet 16, so who the hell knows?
What is clear is that this tournament was very mis-seeded, but I'll give the committee a pass on that just this once.
Just depends on if you see seeding as the reward for the resume you built or a ranking of teams in ability from 1-68. They seem to be trying to get away from the predictive measures and more towards concrete data supported measurements so I'd suspect that this will be more the norm moving forward.

I don't think the giant piles of upsets will be as large once elite teams are able to practice like normal. COVID leveled the field big time this year.
Just not enough data. Like, what are you supposed to do with Loyola? Committee did its best. KenPom chart has been quite lively since Friday.

The process now is so much better than when it was based on RPI.

Re: NCAA Tournament 2021

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:43 pm
by Deleted User 865
Let's go fighting Lons.

Re: NCAA Tournament 2021

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:47 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
Reaves is a gamer.

Re: NCAA Tournament 2021

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:49 pm
by sdoyel
If OU had Harmon they might stand a chance today.

Re: NCAA Tournament 2021

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:54 pm
by nu_bronco
I don't care who beats Gonzaga, just don't want them to go undefeated. Not hating on them, just don't want any team to do it, unless it is KU.

Re: NCAA Tournament 2021

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:54 pm
by sdoyel
KU now -1?

Re: NCAA Tournament 2021

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:56 pm
by PhDhawk
reaves flopped.

Re: NCAA Tournament 2021

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:57 pm
by jfish26
Excuse me, what?

Gonzaga Outgrew Its Crystal Slipper. Now It’s the Best Program in College Hoops.

Once seen as a lovable underdog, Gonzaga has transformed into college basketball’s model program. Is this the NCAA tournament the Zags finally win it all?


https://www.theringer.com/2021/3/18/223 ... sformation

No, absolutely not. Fuck and no.

Re: NCAA Tournament 2021

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:57 pm
by Deleted User 89
reaves came to play

Re: NCAA Tournament 2021

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:57 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
PhDhawk wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:56 pmreaves flopped.
Yep. But I also thought Suggs did the same 2 possessions prior, so evens out.

Re: NCAA Tournament 2021

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:58 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
jfish26 wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:57 pm Excuse me, what?

Gonzaga Outgrew Its Crystal Slipper. Now It’s the Best Program in College Hoops.

Once seen as a lovable underdog, Gonzaga has transformed into college basketball’s model program. Is this the NCAA tournament the Zags finally win it all?


https://www.theringer.com/2021/3/18/223 ... sformation

No, absolutely not. Fuck and no.
It's insane.

Re: NCAA Tournament 2021

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:59 pm
by jfish26
It might seem like Gonzaga is benefitting from a strange year in college hoops. Some of the best players in the 2020 recruiting class bypassed college entirely to play in the G League. Duke and Kentucky missed out on the NCAA tournament for the first time in forever; other powerhouses like Kansas and Michigan State are having down years as well. But maybe Gonzaga isn’t simply benefiting from the shortcomings of the traditional blue bloods. With star prospects like Suggs picking them over these schools, the Zags are also contributing to the changing power dynamic of the sport.
MICHIGAN STATE WAS AN 11-SEED! WE WERE A 3-SEED!

Re: NCAA Tournament 2021

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:08 pm
by InfiniteJ
TraditionKU wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:57 pm reaves came to play
Not sure if this has been talked about or not, but Reaves was all but booted from WSU because it was found out that he was having a strictly physical relationship with Gregg Marshall's daughter. More to it than that, but that's the meat of it.

Re: NCAA Tournament 2021

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:12 pm
by PhDhawk
jfish26 wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:59 pm
It might seem like Gonzaga is benefitting from a strange year in college hoops. Some of the best players in the 2020 recruiting class bypassed college entirely to play in the G League. Duke and Kentucky missed out on the NCAA tournament for the first time in forever; other powerhouses like Kansas and Michigan State are having down years as well. But maybe Gonzaga isn’t simply benefiting from the shortcomings of the traditional blue bloods. With star prospects like Suggs picking them over these schools, the Zags are also contributing to the changing power dynamic of the sport.
MICHIGAN STATE WAS AN 11-SEED! WE WERE A 3-SEED!
How did we get dragged into that trope but UNC, who was an 8 seed and also lost their opening round game, has managed to avoid it?

Re: NCAA Tournament 2021

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:21 pm
by Deleted User 865
At this point, I don't even know what team would match up well against Gonzaga? Like Loyola Chicago?

Re: NCAA Tournament 2021

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:22 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
Suggs gets away with an offensive foul and possible flagrant.