Kansas Crimson

Flake is traitor and I've told him so. Bastard is an embarrassment to the state of AZ. He can't be gone soon enough. Mother-f-er!!!

Geezer wrote: ↑Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:24 pm https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/15/charts- ... ehind.html

I wish they had included references in the article, because unless they based their calculations on the mathematical law that the Trumpublican "tax cuts will pay for themselves", then all you're posting is fake news, Geezer.

lulz...

Republican tax cuts have never paid for themselves.

Leawood wrote: ↑Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:48 pm Republican tax cuts have never paid for themselves.

And sensible supply-siders always knew that -- and said as much.

What is a "sensible" supply sider? There is no such thing.

Leawood wrote: ↑Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:36 pm What is a "sensible" supply sider? There is no such thing.

File alongside "clean coal" and "compassionate conservative"

Leawood wrote: ↑Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:36 pm What is a "sensible" supply sider? There is no such thing.

ziNg!

Nice quip. Lacks substance. A history professor of mine 35 years ago called responses like that as something akin to Sofistry.

Leawood wrote: ↑Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:59 pm Nice quip. Lacks substance. A history professor of mine 35 years ago called responses like that as something akin to Sofistry.

What sort of response do you expect? Sophistry begets sophistry.

"Zing" as a response has substance equal to yours.

Be specific. Define, by name, by example, and by results: A sensible "supply sider." And don't say JFK "because he cut taxes 55 years ago."

Be specific.

A. You do understand that that's not what you asked. You didn't actually ask anything. Your question was a pretext to a blanket statement akin to "Reasonable Keynesians don't exist."

B. Most of what is used to damn the supply-siders as claiming that tax cuts will pay for themselves is BS. Politicians and those who work for them make that claim, but, generally speaking, the wonks declare that "Tax cuts will increase revenues by generating growth" -- which is not the same thing as saying that they'll pay for themselves. On Laffer's curve, there is an "ideal" point at which tax rates generate maximum revenues through growth. But that doesn't mean that artificial "costs" to the treasury of taxes not taken taken can be recouped.

C. Specific cases of supply-siders who have been explicit in saying that tax cuts DO NOT pay for themselves include Jim Pethoukoukis, Douglas Holtz-Eakin, and my personal favorite, Greg Mankiw.

Your Point B makes no sense, I guess to simple me.

I'm astonished you believe in the Laffer Curve, if you really do. It has never worked.

I need to research the folks in C. I am unfamiliar with those folks. I will do that tomorrow evening. Friday fun.

As to point A, I don't appreciate you attempting to redefine what I asked or meant. You do not want to get into redefining questions/issues with me.

Looking forward to reengage these issues.

The Laffer Curve is to Economics what "frictionless pulley" and "batted ball which encounters no air resistance" are to Physics and "perfectly spherical gas molecules" are to Chemistry. Good tools to teach the principles, but have no effect in the real world. Anyone who advocates making public policy based on these concepts is a charlatan.

DC posted a good response but deleted it.

He's nice DC today because it's gameday.

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:07 am DC posted a good response but deleted it.

He's nice DC today because it's gameday.

Didn't delete it. Moved it to a PM.

Leawood is a friend, and there's no reason for me to be fighting with him, especially in public.

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:40 am

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:07 am DC posted a good response but deleted it.

He's nice DC today because it's gameday.

Didn't delete it. Moved it to a PM.

Leawood is a friend, and there's no reason for me to be fighting with him, especially in public.

Pussy.

Exactly.

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:40 am

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:07 am DC posted a good response but deleted it.

He's nice DC today because it's gameday.

Didn't delete it. Moved it to a PM.

Leawood is a friend, and there's no reason for me to be fighting with him, especially in public.

You're a class act.

It was an informative response. Glad I got to read it before it disappeared.

Keep fighting the good fight DC!