Re: 2019 NFL Season
Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:27 pm
They are in court based on an accusation.
A kid was removed based on an accusation
A kid was removed based on an accusation
Then i'm just being honest too.jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:18 pmI'm just being honest - you seem to tie yourself up in knots to make yourself feel better about supporting institutions that take advantage of kids/young adults (and predominantly black/poor ones at that), or about teams that employ people responsible for their kid's broken arm, where it suits your rooting interest.
I'm aware that there's something very hypocritical about me buying KU tickets despite my feelings about amateurism, or Chiefs tickets despite them employing Hill. But at least I'm honest about it, with myself and otherwise.
It's obnoxious.Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:20 pmUgh.....come on man. Enough with the underhanded racism claimsjfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:18 pmI'm just being honest - you seem to tie yourself up in knots to make yourself feel better about supporting institutions that take advantage of kids/young adults (and predominantly black/poor ones at that), or about teams that employ people responsible for their kid's broken arm, where it suits your rooting interest.
I'm aware that there's something very hypocritical about me buying KU tickets despite my feelings about amateurism, or Chiefs tickets despite them employing Hill. But at least I'm honest about it, with myself and otherwise.
If amateurism is wrong, then it is undeniably disproportionately wrong toward groups other than affluent white people.Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:20 pmUgh.....come on man. Enough with the underhanded racism claimsjfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:18 pmI'm just being honest - you seem to tie yourself up in knots to make yourself feel better about supporting institutions that take advantage of kids/young adults (and predominantly black/poor ones at that), or about teams that employ people responsible for their kid's broken arm, where it suits your rooting interest.
I'm aware that there's something very hypocritical about me buying KU tickets despite my feelings about amateurism, or Chiefs tickets despite them employing Hill. But at least I'm honest about it, with myself and otherwise.
I don't think that will get Tyreek's kid back.
It's here I'd remind you that I'm not being anyone's lawyer. I have no dog in the fight.pdub wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:29 pmThen i'm just being honest too.jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:18 pmI'm just being honest - you seem to tie yourself up in knots to make yourself feel better about supporting institutions that take advantage of kids/young adults (and predominantly black/poor ones at that), or about teams that employ people responsible for their kid's broken arm, where it suits your rooting interest.
I'm aware that there's something very hypocritical about me buying KU tickets despite my feelings about amateurism, or Chiefs tickets despite them employing Hill. But at least I'm honest about it, with myself and otherwise.
You are ( currently ) being a dick and you ( currently ) seem like a shitty lawyer.
I don’t know if anyone disagrees with this.jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:33 pmIf amateurism is wrong, then it is undeniably disproportionately wrong toward groups other than affluent white people.Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:20 pmUgh.....come on man. Enough with the underhanded racism claimsjfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:18 pm
I'm just being honest - you seem to tie yourself up in knots to make yourself feel better about supporting institutions that take advantage of kids/young adults (and predominantly black/poor ones at that), or about teams that employ people responsible for their kid's broken arm, where it suits your rooting interest.
I'm aware that there's something very hypocritical about me buying KU tickets despite my feelings about amateurism, or Chiefs tickets despite them employing Hill. But at least I'm honest about it, with myself and otherwise.
Does supporting amateurism, then, make one a racist? I think maybe that's a bridge too far, but one doesn't help oneself here by denying the disproportionate effects of the system.
I’ll bet you a steak/sushi dinner and whiskey the next time your in PDX that Tyreek Hill gets his kid backCrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:34 pmI don't think that will get Tyreek's kid back.
The judge (the adjudicator in these courts) ruled against him and thinks his kid is not safe around him and believes DCF's version of events which is that one or both of mom and dad are responsible.That's all fact.
You're going down a slope of "it's not fact the he killed her even though he was convicted of her murder." Perhaps so, but what are the overwhelming odds here?
I haven't said anything to the contrary. I genuinely hope he does and think he absolutely should provided he participate in the services he likely needs.Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:37 pmI’ll bet you a steak/sushi dinner and whiskey the next time your in PDX that Tyreek Hill gets his kid backCrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:34 pmI don't think that will get Tyreek's kid back.
The judge (the adjudicator in these courts) ruled against him and thinks his kid is not safe around him and believes DCF's version of events which is that one or both of mom and dad are responsible.That's all fact.
You're going down a slope of "it's not fact the he killed her even though he was convicted of her murder." Perhaps so, but what are the overwhelming odds here?
I didn't introduce that word into this conversation.Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:35 pmI don’t know if anyone disagrees with this.jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:33 pmIf amateurism is wrong, then it is undeniably disproportionately wrong toward groups other than affluent white people.
Does supporting amateurism, then, make one a racist? I think maybe that's a bridge too far, but one doesn't help oneself here by denying the disproportionate effects of the system.
Just stop inferring that other people are racist just because they don’t agree with you. It’s unbecoming
jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:45 pmI didn't introduce that word into this conversation.Cascadia wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:35 pmI don’t know if anyone disagrees with this.jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:33 pm
If amateurism is wrong, then it is undeniably disproportionately wrong toward groups other than affluent white people.
Does supporting amateurism, then, make one a racist? I think maybe that's a bridge too far, but one doesn't help oneself here by denying the disproportionate effects of the system.
Just stop inferring that other people are racist just because they don’t agree with you. It’s unbecoming
What I said - and what you don't seem to disagree with - is that amateurism is disproportionately bad toward black/poor kids. And I don't think anyone would disagree that pwhit supports amateurism.
Of course I don't think pwhit is actively racist. I do think that he is wrong (though well-meaning and genuine) in considering amateurism to be fair, and in being wrong about that, he necessarily turns a blind eye toward the disproportionate effects amateurism has on black/poor kids.