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chiknbut wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:52 pm
HouseDivided wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:15 pm
chiknbut wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:55 pm

Do you have a reference for this, Psych.

Other than this, I mean:

https://www.altnewsmedia.net/news/coron ... why-italy/
It was on the White supremacist podcast I listen to every day and the last issue of Der Sturmer. Why? You don't subscribe, I take it?
So you don't have a source or link?
I don't remember where I got it, and I don't feel like looking it up. No offense, but wherever I source it, you're not going to accept it, and somebody is going to just deride it as racist. I don't have the energy for the back-and-forth today. You may proceed as usual.
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HouseDivided wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:59 pm
chiknbut wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:52 pm
HouseDivided wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:15 pm

It was on the White supremacist podcast I listen to every day and the last issue of Der Sturmer. Why? You don't subscribe, I take it?
So you don't have a source or link?
I don't remember where I got it, and I don't feel like looking it up. No offense, but wherever I source it, you're not going to accept it, and somebody is going to just deride it as racist. I don't have the energy for the back-and-forth today. You may proceed as usual.
I asked sincerely and honestly to see if what you posted was legitimate. I really wanted to know.

What a waste of time.
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chiknbut wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:55 pm
HouseDivided wrote: Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:17 pm Northern Italy has large numbers of Chinese workers who were brought in from Wuhan province to assemble designer bags and other leatherworks. The math isn’t hard to do.
Do you have a reference for this, Psych.

Other than this, I mean:

https://www.altnewsmedia.net/news/coron ... why-italy/
It's backed up by Wikipedia but I'm skeptical of that site for most things.
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chiknbut wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:04 pm
HouseDivided wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:59 pm
chiknbut wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:52 pm

So you don't have a source or link?
I don't remember where I got it, and I don't feel like looking it up. No offense, but wherever I source it, you're not going to accept it, and somebody is going to just deride it as racist. I don't have the energy for the back-and-forth today. You may proceed as usual.
I asked sincerely and honestly to see if what you posted was legitimate. I really wanted to know.

What a waste of time.
Sorry to disappoint. Hopefully you can salvage your day.
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Trump says he’s expecting 240k dead Americans. So I wonder if that means we should expect closer to 700k
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"Made in Italy" is a huge deal for luxury goods consumers in China.

There is significant traffic between China and Milan.

I don't know about factories or laborers.

On the one hand, it strikes me that that sort of arrangement would violate EU rules.

On the other hand, China does have virtual colonies of workers scattered throughout Africa, mostly in energy and mining.
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Vega wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:03 pm Trump says he’s expecting 240k dead Americans. So I wonder if that means we should expect closer to 700k
More like 120,000.

"See? I saved lives!"
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DCHawk1 wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:05 pm On the other hand, China does have virtual colonies of workers scattered throughout Africa, mostly in energy and mining.
i was a bit shocked at their foothold in cameroon...the chinese goods there were shit (at least the things we were looking for), but they were everywhere and pretty much your only option
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Vega wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:58 am 268 reported deaths yesterday in US. If Ms. Owen's numbers are correct, then that means that 3.6% of deaths in America are due to COVID-19.
748 US Deaths today. That would be now 10% of deaths in the US is Covid-19 related. Been rainy as shit here, so less folks outside. But it seems very gloom with people's faces. I'm across the street and look down on a major park, where on a given day (pre-Rona), 50 people pass per hour during busy times. Today, everyone seemed to be in masks, and there was no joy in the air. Generally, I don't mind being inside for large periods of time. Right now, been hard.
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On the original link that geezer provided the numbers are not good and getting worse. Amazing to watch.

The death rate that ive seen thrown around is in the 1-3% range. If you look at the worldwide (reported cases) the death vs recovered rate is insanely high. As of right now its 81% recovered 19% dead.
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DCHawk1 wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:06 pm
Vega wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:03 pm Trump says he’s expecting 240k dead Americans. So I wonder if that means we should expect closer to 700k
More like 120,000.

"See? I saved lives!"
Bingo!
For those of us who have been paying attention to Trump for the past 3 years (actually the last 30+ years), it's kind of a no-brainer to realize he would do ANYTHING to give himself a pat on the back and tell people how great he is.
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Here are some more sobering numbers.....
6.6 million.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/02/economy/ ... index.html
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The "numbers" are total bullshit. I doubt that even a fraction of the people who get it end up getting tested. And unless I am dying, I am not stepping foot in a doctors office or hospital even if I am 100% certain I have it.
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twocoach wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 7:47 am The "numbers" are total bullshit. I doubt that even a fraction of the people who get it end up getting tested. And unless I am dying, I am not stepping foot in a doctors office or hospital even if I am 100% certain I have it.
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DCHawk1 wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:06 pm
Vega wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:03 pm Trump says he’s expecting 240k dead Americans. So I wonder if that means we should expect closer to 700k
More like 120,000.

"See? I saved lives!"
So 30,000x Benghazi and 40x 9/11. I see an investigation on the horizon.
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defixione wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:40 am
DCHawk1 wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:06 pm
Vega wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:03 pm Trump says he’s expecting 240k dead Americans. So I wonder if that means we should expect closer to 700k
More like 120,000.

"See? I saved lives!"
So 30,000x Benghazi and 40x 9/11. I see an investigation on the horizon.
Fine by me.
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would any investigation even be worth it?

How many times do we have to see a potus cry YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE while also refusing subpoenas to produce evidence, and have the rest of the administration and the entire fucking party capitulate?
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Now more and more evidence is showing that this can be spread through the air by talking or breathing, which means the demand for masks is going to go through the roof even worse than it is.

Fuck.
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ousdahl wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:27 am would any investigation even be worth it?

How many times do we have to see a potus cry YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE while also refusing subpoenas to produce evidence, and have the rest of the administration and the entire fucking party capitulate?
Yes. Creating a record is important. Learning every possible lesson is important.
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jfish26 wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:43 am
ousdahl wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:27 am would any investigation even be worth it?

How many times do we have to see a potus cry YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE while also refusing subpoenas to produce evidence, and have the rest of the administration and the entire fucking party capitulate?
Yes. Creating a record is important. Learning every possible lesson is important.
Lesson one would probably not gut pandemic teams.
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