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Re: Draft Watch

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 12:26 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
But, say that the media scouts are a year too early on him and the NBA scouts all give him a 2nd round grade this year. Then I think he can absolutely come back and work his way into the 1st.

Re: Draft Watch

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 12:28 pm
by pdub
Absolutely.
Then Zach Clemence the year after that.
And Bobby Pettiford the year after that.

Re: Draft Watch

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:01 pm
by Qusdahl
Zach, maybe. Dude has size and a shot.

Bobby would pretty much need a BIFM type college season to even sniff the league, and even a BIFM college season is no guarantee of nba success.

But if Bobby wants to go all BIBP on us, I’m all for it.

Re: Draft Watch

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:13 pm
by Mjl
Best comparison I see to Braun, in terms of their skills, size and game at the same age, would be Jimmy Butler.

Of course, Butler became better than anyone expected. I'm not saying Braun will be that good.

Re: Draft Watch

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:16 pm
by PhDhawk
Mjl wrote: Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:13 pm Best comparison I see to Braun, in terms of their skills, size and game at the same age, would be Jimmy Butler.

Of course, Butler became better than anyone expected. I'm not saying Braun will be that good.
Whoa, you can't compare a white player to a black player!

Go with Chase Budinger instead.

Re: Draft Watch

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:20 pm
by Mjl
Fun fact - Daryl Morey had a rule that you could only compare white players to black players. He found his scouts were too affected by color.

I think that's happening here with Braun and the seeming lack of concern about his shooting.

Re: Draft Watch

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:21 pm
by PhDhawk
Mjl wrote: Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:20 pm Fun fact - Daryl Morey had a rule that you could only compare white players to black players. He found his scouts were too affected by color.

I think that's happening here with Braun and the seeming lack of concern about his shooting.
Yes, and probably undervaluing his athletic ability.

Re: Draft Watch

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:23 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
Mjl wrote: Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:20 pmI think that's happening here with Braun and the seeming lack of concern about his shooting.
I can only speak for myself, but I'd have to say it's mostly his mechanics, his frosh 3pt% and his FT%.

Not to mention almost every NBA player, white or black, becomes a better perimeter shooter after they enter the league.

Re: Draft Watch

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 3:54 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
First 2023 Mock Draft for ESPN.

27. Gradey Dick | Kansas* | SG/SF | Age: 18.2


No other Kansas players.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/inside ... sophomores

Re: Draft Watch

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 3:55 pm
by PhDhawk
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Jan 27, 2022 3:54 pm First 2023 Mock Draft for ESPN.

27. Gradey Dick | Kansas* | SG/SF | Age: 18.2


No other Kansas players.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/inside ... sophomores
Hopefully Braun.

Re: Draft Watch

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 3:57 pm
by PhDhawk
How does that work for G-league guys? They sign with a team for a year, and then they can be drafted? I'm thinking of MJ Rice, and I wonder if his not being on the list makes him more or less likely to actually come to KU.

Re: Draft Watch

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 4:01 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
PhDhawk wrote: Thu Jan 27, 2022 3:57 pm How does that work for G-league guys? They sign with a team for a year, and then they can be drafted? I'm thinking of MJ Rice, and I wonder if his not being on the list makes him more or less likely to actually come to KU.
I was a little surprised Rice wasn't mentioned in the top 58 (2 less picks next year because of sanctions).

But, yes, G-League Ignite are eligible for draft after one season.

Re: Draft Watch

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 4:06 pm
by NDballer13
Has Rice actually said G League is a legit option he's still looking at? It's just weird he seems to be the only one people are worried about, but not Dick or Udeh.

Re: Draft Watch

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 4:09 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
NDballer13 wrote: Thu Jan 27, 2022 4:06 pm Has Rice actually said G League is a legit option he's still looking at? It's just weird he seems to be the only one people are worried about, but not Dick or Udeh.
I don't think he has publicly said much lately.

Just from what I understand, his entire college recruitment and commitment have long been kind of not been taken seriously because his camp has made it sound like his path will be through professional leagues.

He did sign an NLI, though, so if he plays college, it will be at KU.

Re: Draft Watch

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 4:53 pm
by Mjl
Isn't Rice visiting KU this weekend?
I wouldn't think he would if he wasn't planning on coming.

Re: Draft Watch

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 4:59 pm
by PhDhawk
Mjl wrote: Thu Jan 27, 2022 4:53 pm Isn't Rice visiting KU this weekend?
I wouldn't think he would if he wasn't planning on coming.
Do you know if its an official or unofficial visit?

Because, I wouldn't turn down a free trip to Allen to watch a game. But if he's footing the bill, yeah, maybe that's a good sign.

Re: Draft Watch

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 5:00 pm
by Mjl
Dunno

Re: Draft Watch

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 5:15 pm
by Qusdahl
Even if it’s a free trip, it’s a good sign that he wants to spend time in Lawrence either way, right?

Re: Draft Watch

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 5:25 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
I think he already took an official, so it's "unofficial."

But, I doubt he's working extra shifts at Kroger for the expenses.

Re: Draft Watch

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 5:29 pm
by Qusdahl
Oh shit.

How soon is too soon to get that NIL going?