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Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:31 am
by Cascadia
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 7:17 am Denver has 5th best odds to win Super Bowl, same as the Rams.

Seems a little high, but kind of shows that this board is underselling how good of a move this was for Denver and how good they can be. Might be chiefs bias.
Let's talk in November.

Also, Vegas odds are designed to take money from stupid people

Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:51 am
by twocoach
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 7:17 am Denver has 5th best odds to win Super Bowl, same as the Rams.

Seems a little high, but kind of shows that this board is underselling how good of a move this was for Denver and how good they can be. Might be chiefs bias.
I think that is way too big a bump for Russell Wilson.

Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:18 am
by CrimsonNBlue
Cascadia wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:31 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 7:17 am Denver has 5th best odds to win Super Bowl, same as the Rams.

Seems a little high, but kind of shows that this board is underselling how good of a move this was for Denver and how good they can be. Might be chiefs bias.
Let's talk in November.

Also, Vegas odds are designed to take money from stupid people
Understood, but it’s not like it’s a difference between 5th and 20th. And they obviously have a better grasp than Joe Public.

Favorites are KC, BUF, and GB. That’s reasonable.

Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:19 am
by CrimsonNBlue
twocoach wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:51 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 7:17 am Denver has 5th best odds to win Super Bowl, same as the Rams.

Seems a little high, but kind of shows that this board is underselling how good of a move this was for Denver and how good they can be. Might be chiefs bias.
I think that is way too big a bump for Russell Wilson.
Agree, but like stated above, it doesn’t mean they suck. It certainly gets their fans’ attention and looks like they might have a chance.

Given that KC and BUF are the favorites, I have to think that they would be the 3rd favorites if they were in the NFC.

Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:50 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
No charges for DeShaun.

Seems like that will clear him.

Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:54 pm
by Cascadia
I’m actually surprised by this news. You have to think Houston still wants to move on. Will be interesting to see where he goes and what Houston gets in return.

Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:57 pm
by jfish26
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:50 pm No charges for DeShaun.

Seems like that will clear him.
I tend to think his case will be moved to the IARP, and we will hear something in 7-10 years.

Maybe.

Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:18 pm
by NewtonHawk11
Will any civil cases affect his standing? But yeah I think Watson is traded within the week.

Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:07 pm
by pdub
I dont think Denver is the 5th best team in the NFL.

But I do think top 10-12 seems reasonable.

Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 6:39 pm
by jfish26
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:18 pm Will any civil cases affect his standing? But yeah I think Watson is traded within the week.
Not directly. But obviously he won’t want those to get to discovery.

Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:13 pm
by Sparko
As a Chiefs fan, I hate Denver having a non-Flacco.

Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 9:32 pm
by hartjack8
jfish26 wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 6:39 pm
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:18 pm Will any civil cases affect his standing? But yeah I think Watson is traded within the week.
Not directly. But obviously he won’t want those to get to discovery.
Yep everybody forgets OJ was innocent and then got fried on the civil side

Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 9:38 pm
by hartjack8
Cascadia wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:31 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 7:17 am Denver has 5th best odds to win Super Bowl, same as the Rams.

Seems a little high, but kind of shows that this board is underselling how good of a move this was for Denver and how good they can be. Might be chiefs bias.
Let's talk in November.

Also, Vegas odds are designed to take money from stupid people
1100 percent would not bet on Denver winning super bowl but if you do not think they improved next year you are a clown

Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 9:58 pm
by hartjack8
twocoach wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:05 pm
Sparko wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:20 pm I thought Denver was a few picks from contending this year. They gave up a lot for sure. It isn't like they were picking last. Their defense will fall off a little and they really need help on the OL. Wilson probably has one more year of decent escapability. His size has always made him a scrambler. The Broncs seem to have rolled the dice. I think they panicked and gave up too much for post prime Russ.
Denver finished as close to the record of the Jets and Texans as they did to the record needed to earn the last playoff spot.
UMM

WTF

Denver was the same as the Jets and the Texans.

They all had no QB.

Except Denver aaahhhhhhhh was a lot better. If they had a QB someone as say Wilson then most likely they in a playoff spot. Why the other two teams you mentioned for some reason had absolutely no chance.




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Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 8:42 am
by CrimsonNBlue
jfish26 wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 6:39 pm
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:18 pm Will any civil cases affect his standing? But yeah I think Watson is traded within the week.
Not directly. But obviously he won’t want those to get to discovery.
At this point, I’m not sure what discovery would uncover that the authorities (hopefully) have not already tracked down.

And, of course there is the PR battle to think about, so maybe some more allegations start leaking out now that the criminal stuff is over, but beyond DeShaun self-incriminating himself, it seems he may be in the clear here from a PR perspective.

Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:04 am
by jfish26
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 8:42 am
jfish26 wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 6:39 pm
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:18 pm Will any civil cases affect his standing? But yeah I think Watson is traded within the week.
Not directly. But obviously he won’t want those to get to discovery.
At this point, I’m not sure what discovery would uncover that the authorities (hopefully) have not already tracked down.

And, of course there is the PR battle to think about, so maybe some more allegations start leaking out now that the criminal stuff is over, but beyond DeShaun self-incriminating himself, it seems he may be in the clear here from a PR perspective.
I don’t follow. The police don’t have to show the cards they had. I’d think the likelihood of bad facts coming out would increase exponentially in the case of full-fledged civil litigation.

Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:26 am
by CrimsonNBlue
jfish26 wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:04 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 8:42 am
jfish26 wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 6:39 pm

Not directly. But obviously he won’t want those to get to discovery.
At this point, I’m not sure what discovery would uncover that the authorities (hopefully) have not already tracked down.

And, of course there is the PR battle to think about, so maybe some more allegations start leaking out now that the criminal stuff is over, but beyond DeShaun self-incriminating himself, it seems he may be in the clear here from a PR perspective.
I don’t follow. The police don’t have to show the cards they had. I’d think the likelihood of bad facts coming out would increase exponentially in the case of full-fledged civil litigation.
Plaintiffs would have had no reason to not leak their bad facts already or not act in good faith with authorities.

If I remember correctly, the entire thing started out with the filing of the suits. I can’t even imagine there is video out there, bc we would have seen it already.

The police investigation is now available to public through sunshine request. So we will see it all soon, but given there was no reason for plaintiffs not to leak everything from the beginning, the bad facts not uncovered seem more likely to be unfavorable to plaintiffs. We shall see.

Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:28 am
by CrimsonNBlue
Of course, the cleanest move from DeShaun’s side at this point, if he can afford it, is to settle now with confidentiality terms.

Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:31 am
by jfish26
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:28 am Of course, the cleanest move from DeShaun’s side at this point, if he can afford it, is to settle now with confidentiality terms.
It’s demonstrated that this isn’t as easy as it seems, but my god it sure seems to me like trading the money needed to live an A+++, “fuck-you money” life in exchange for having a secure, A+ life, is quite worth it.

Re: NFL Offseason 2022

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 10:05 am
by Cascadia
hartjack8 wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 9:38 pm
Cascadia wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:31 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 7:17 am Denver has 5th best odds to win Super Bowl, same as the Rams.

Seems a little high, but kind of shows that this board is underselling how good of a move this was for Denver and how good they can be. Might be chiefs bias.
Let's talk in November.

Also, Vegas odds are designed to take money from stupid people
1100 percent would not bet on Denver winning super bowl but if you do not think they improved next year you are a clown

DEEP BREATHS!

No one said they didn't get better