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Re: OFFICIAL FINAL FOUR THREAD

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:35 am
by UnholyLivingDead
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:30 am
UnholyLivingDead wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:16 am
Back2Lawrence wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:04 am Yay, sports betting is legal in Louisiana!!!!! Time to reinstall draftkings
Kansas was so close to getting this done last week but now it looks like this morning's committee meeting killed any chance of getting it done in 2022. Meanwhile, Missouri is more than likely going to get their bill passed. Sucks.
Where are you hearing from that the Missouri Senate is likely to pass sports betting? I know the House passed 2 identical bills to current Senate bills that are being discussed, but I think there is an uphill battle in the Senate with the casinos having big beef with both bills. i.e. they aren't happy with their cut and some of the pork attached to the bills regarding slot machines (I believe).

Would obviously love for it to pass and hope that the Senate will.
I didn't realize the bill was up for such a fight in the Missouri Senate, I misunderstood what was going on over there then! I assumed Missouri would try to force theirs through to beat Kansas to the punch, at least that's what the House seemed interested in.

In Kansas, we have the casinos on board however someone in the committee this morning proposed a last-minute amendment that would have just killed the bill. It narrowly failed but there are some other hold ups now and it's looking less optimistic.

Re: OFFICIAL FINAL FOUR THREAD

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:45 am
by CrimsonNBlue
UnholyLivingDead wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:35 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:30 am
UnholyLivingDead wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:16 am

Kansas was so close to getting this done last week but now it looks like this morning's committee meeting killed any chance of getting it done in 2022. Meanwhile, Missouri is more than likely going to get their bill passed. Sucks.
Where are you hearing from that the Missouri Senate is likely to pass sports betting? I know the House passed 2 identical bills to current Senate bills that are being discussed, but I think there is an uphill battle in the Senate with the casinos having big beef with both bills. i.e. they aren't happy with their cut and some of the pork attached to the bills regarding slot machines (I believe).

Would obviously love for it to pass and hope that the Senate will.
I didn't realize the bill was up for such a fight in the Missouri Senate, I misunderstood what was going on over there then! I assumed Missouri would try to force theirs through to beat Kansas to the punch, at least that's what the House seemed interested in.

In Kansas, we have the casinos on board however someone in the committee this morning proposed a last-minute amendment that would have just killed the bill. It narrowly failed but there are some other hold ups now and it's looking less optimistic.
It's absurd that any state, let alone ones with budges crises (KS, MO, check), would not legalize sports betting and recreational marijuana. MO is losing sports betting tax revenue to Iowa daily.

There is a feel that there is a battle to be had in MO Senate, but I'm hopeful that it's just a ploy to use the media to get people to call in to their state senators.

Re: OFFICIAL FINAL FOUR THREAD

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:07 am
by Sparko
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 3:59 pm Doug Sirmons only one Kansas has seen constantly. And he’s the worst.

Was terrible in the Dayton game

Re: OFFICIAL FINAL FOUR THREAD

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:07 am
by UnholyLivingDead
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:45 am
UnholyLivingDead wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:35 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:30 am

Where are you hearing from that the Missouri Senate is likely to pass sports betting? I know the House passed 2 identical bills to current Senate bills that are being discussed, but I think there is an uphill battle in the Senate with the casinos having big beef with both bills. i.e. they aren't happy with their cut and some of the pork attached to the bills regarding slot machines (I believe).

Would obviously love for it to pass and hope that the Senate will.
I didn't realize the bill was up for such a fight in the Missouri Senate, I misunderstood what was going on over there then! I assumed Missouri would try to force theirs through to beat Kansas to the punch, at least that's what the House seemed interested in.

In Kansas, we have the casinos on board however someone in the committee this morning proposed a last-minute amendment that would have just killed the bill. It narrowly failed but there are some other hold ups now and it's looking less optimistic.
It's absurd that any state, let alone ones with budges crises (KS, MO, check), would not legalize sports betting and recreational marijuana. MO is losing sports betting tax revenue to Iowa daily.

There is a feel that there is a battle to be had in MO Senate, but I'm hopeful that it's just a ploy to use the media to get people to call in to their state senators.
That's what I can't wrap my head around. The state legislature in Kansas loves to complain about how they don't have any funding yet refuses to open up new revenue streams in the form of sports betting and marijuana. I thought for sure Kansas was poised to make this happen this year because they studied the numbers of how much money they are losing to Iowa and Colorado. And if Missouri gets theirs passed then Kansas is in deep trouble. Very frustrating.

Re: OFFICIAL FINAL FOUR THREAD

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:28 am
by zsn
Correlation between legalized sports betting and bridging budget gaps is spurious at best. Probably belongs in a bored down the hall but many states have budget surpluses right now and legalized sports betting isn’t likely in the top 10 reasons why

Re: OFFICIAL FINAL FOUR THREAD

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:33 am
by UnholyLivingDead
zsn wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:28 am Correlation between legalized sports betting and bridging budget gaps is spurious at best. Probably belongs in a bored down the hall but many states have budget surpluses right now and legalized sports betting isn’t likely in the top 10 reasons why
You're right. I'm not saying legalized sports betting would fix Kansas's budget issues. But I am saying Kansas isn't exactly in a position to say no to an extra $10+ million per year. Every little bit counts.

Re: OFFICIAL FINAL FOUR THREAD

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:36 am
by CrimsonNBlue
zsn wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:28 am Correlation between legalized sports betting and bridging budget gaps is spurious at best. Probably belongs in a bored down the hall but many states have budget surpluses right now and legalized sports betting isn’t likely in the top 10 reasons why
Of course, but make no mistake about it, Kansans and Missourians are spending their money elsewhere.

With that--I will get back on the Final Four topic.

Re: OFFICIAL FINAL FOUR THREAD

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:36 am
by Back2Lawrence
UnholyLivingDead wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:33 am
zsn wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:28 am Correlation between legalized sports betting and bridging budget gaps is spurious at best. Probably belongs in a bored down the hall but many states have budget surpluses right now and legalized sports betting isn’t likely in the top 10 reasons why
You're right. I'm not saying legalized sports betting would fix Kansas's budget issues. But I am saying Kansas isn't exactly in a position to say no to an extra $10+ million per year. Every little bit counts.
Don’t forget the extra sales tax from all the people at BWW placing bets, too. Because, that’s the best place to watch.

Re: OFFICIAL FINAL FOUR THREAD

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:40 am
by NewtonHawk11

Re: OFFICIAL FINAL FOUR THREAD

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:45 am
by DrPepper
Legal sports betting is like herbicide commercials…. Except they never stop. Ceaseless annoying commercials and the discussion on the radio has pivoted big time. It is a shame.

Re: OFFICIAL FINAL FOUR THREAD

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:49 am
by NewtonHawk11
Ticket prices have dropped a tad. Get in price is about $400 for both semifinal games compared to about $470 a few days ago.

Re: OFFICIAL FINAL FOUR THREAD

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:52 am
by CrimsonNBlue
Apparently, the bigger barrier is finding a place to stay in NOLA.

Re: OFFICIAL FINAL FOUR THREAD

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:01 am
by Back2Lawrence
DrPepper wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:45 am Legal sports betting is like herbicide commercials…. Except they never stop. Ceaseless annoying commercials and the discussion on the radio has pivoted big time. It is a shame.
The commercials are
No doubt ridiculous. Don’t have to deal with them living in Kansas again, though. Not having those commercials on is more ridiculous.

Re: OFFICIAL FINAL FOUR THREAD

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:02 am
by NewtonHawk11
And a flight there is something like $1,100 round trip for one passenger. I know a lot of Kansas fans will drive, but still.

It's probably the biggest Final Four ticket in a long time. 4 good fanbases.

Re: OFFICIAL FINAL FOUR THREAD

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:04 am
by CrimsonNBlue
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:02 amIt's probably the biggest Final Four ticket in a long time. 4 good fanbases.
There aren't a lot of great places to host a Final Four.

NOLA is a great place to host a Final Four.

Re: OFFICIAL FINAL FOUR THREAD

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:07 am
by zsn
DrPepper wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:45 am Legal sports betting is like herbicide commercials…. Except they never stop. Ceaseless annoying commercials and the discussion on the radio has pivoted big time. It is a shame.
You should watch sports broadcasts in EU and UK - it’s a nonstop pitch for sports betting! They even have the website on players jerseys!!

I understand the point CNB and ULD are making as well. This oneupmanship between adjacent states played out in the open between Connecticut and Rhode Island in the early 90s. I think a stalemate was reached, which turned out to be best for everyone involved

Re: OFFICIAL FINAL FOUR THREAD

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:07 am
by DrPepper
I hope it is a fun week for our guys. Which reminds me of a pregame locker room speech by Self telling the team how much fun they are going to be having in that locker room in a few hours (2008 UNC, I believe). And that reminds me of one of my favorite post-NC videos somebody made based off the Nike commercials and play intro videos at the time. I hope our guys are enjoying the media attention. How are the networks going to video player intros when we have key dude(s) coming off the bench? Can they really show just show the starting 5 walking down a tunnel? No Remy? No Mitch?

Ok, here is that video from 2008, post NC.


To answer my own question. I guess it worked out ok for Sherron Collins.

Re: OFFICIAL FINAL FOUR THREAD

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:38 am
by RainbowsandUnicorns
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:49 am Ticket prices have dropped a tad. Get in price is about $400 for both semifinal games compared to about $470 a few days ago.
If you like watching ants play basketball and enjoy getting altitude sickness - then $400 is a really good deal.

Re: OFFICIAL FINAL FOUR THREAD

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:40 am
by pdub
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:38 am
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:49 am Ticket prices have dropped a tad. Get in price is about $400 for both semifinal games compared to about $470 a few days ago.
If you like watching ants play basketball and enjoy getting altitude sickness - then $400 is a really good deal.
Or do the pdub photoshop ticket special.

Re: OFFICIAL FINAL FOUR THREAD

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:05 pm
by ousdahl
Where on mass should we watch?

Harbor lites is closed now isn’t it??