Kansas Crimson

randylahey wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 6:49 pm

Sparko wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 4:16 pm It turns out that the Ukraine is good at self defense and advancing American interests. Russia? Not so much.

Ukraine is good at self defense?

The fact that they have not been wiped off the map is incredible.

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:20 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 6:49 pm

Sparko wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 4:16 pm It turns out that the Ukraine is good at self defense and advancing American interests. Russia? Not so much.

Ukraine is good at self defense?

The fact that they have not been wiped off the map is incredible.

Which is the right place to put this.

https://x.com/thestudyofwar/status/1735 ... PzNG4aOfKQ

So things are going well in Ukraine? Is that what you beleive to be the truth. That they are good at defending themselves

randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:58 pm So things are going well in Ukraine? Is that what you beleive to he the truth. That they are good at defending themselves

Ohhh, a series of “gotcha” questions.

How fun

jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:27 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:20 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 6:49 pm

Ukraine is good at self defense?

The fact that they have not been wiped off the map is incredible.

Which is the right place to put this.

https://x.com/thestudyofwar/status/1735 ... PzNG4aOfKQ

There is no truth to this. The US has zero legitimate state in the Russia/Ukraine situation

Only dirty politics is at stake

randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:23 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:27 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:20 am
The fact that they have not been wiped off the map is incredible.

Which is the right place to put this.

https://x.com/thestudyofwar/status/1735 ... PzNG4aOfKQ

There is no truth to this. The US has zero legitimate state in the Russia/Ukraine situation

Only dirty politics is at stake

Giggle. This is about as sound as your spirit animal’s calls for the South to secede (again). Suicidal disregard for the interconnectedness of things.

randylahey wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 9:54 am Soooo another 200 million for ukraine.

Unchecked government spending and it's not even at the benefit of our own country

We need a libertarian revolution like our friends down south are doing

Which friends, Randy? Surely you cannot mean these friends, as this sure SEEMS like big government at work.

https://x.com/davidrkadler/status/17356 ... q_-8Yt1KMA

BREAKING President Javier Milei announces a total crackdown on Argentine civil society, calling on armed forces to break strikes, arrest protestors, “protect” children from families that bring them to demos, and form a new national registry of all agitating organisations.

There has been several days of normalizing the crooked fascist in Argentina. Time for that to stop.

Sparko wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:44 pm There has been several days of normalizing the crooked fascist in Argentina. Time for that to stop.

Crooked facist eh?

argentina would be a fun little $#!Thole to fund a war.



if uncle manages to wipe off a few of these $#!Tholesz in his crusades. he may get my vote.

2 nitwit posts in a row!

How lucky are we to have constant reminders of the importance of education?

randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:51 pm

Sparko wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:44 pm There has been several days of normalizing the crooked fascist in Argentina. Time for that to stop.

Crooked facist eh?

You know, the friend down south (?) who believes in big government intervention into and control over the lives and activities of the folks.

Mass arrests and death camps. Libertarian end games

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 8:03 am

KUTradition wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 8:54 pm

randylahey wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 6:12 pm

The founding of this country was pretty cool. Although we've slowly drifted away from some founding principles as government has grown the past couple centuries

the founding of this country was based on theft, rape, murder and slavery

pretty cool indeed

It really is a shame you don’t get along with Qusdahl.

it’s really a shame q can’t seem to make a coherent argument without embellishing and deliberately misrepresenting others’ views

Embellishing and deliberately misrepresenting others views?

Oh come on bro, it’s not like I keep insisting you’re a Putin parrot.

But for real, if you have any constructive suggestions as to how my arguments might be received as more coherent, please do suggest.

Also, speaking of foreign aid to Ukraine, I wonder where this dood got grenades…


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67729343.amp

https://youtu.be/2pBH6pL_wOo?si=tHJZHXWW4Ww66S0y

KUTradition wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:55 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 8:03 am

KUTradition wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 8:54 pm
the founding of this country was based on theft, rape, murder and slavery

pretty cool indeed

It really is a shame you don’t get along with Qusdahl.

it’s really a shame q can’t seem to make a coherent argument without embellishing and deliberately misrepresenting others’ views

^^^

And/or, making one vast conflation after another, such as treating American involvement in Vietnam, Ukraine, Afghanistan, Iraq, Israel, etc., as if they're all the same. Which means, if you're going to reply, you're forced to point out the obvious differences first, and then make your point. No thanks.

No one would argue the US doesn't have a history of making huge mistakes vis-a-vis our foreign policy, but it also includes helping save the world's ass twice in the last century.

Pro tip: It can be hard to tell how deep a mud puddle is, from the top.

If you're a pacifist or isolationist and think any international involvement is wrong, just say so.

I just think that, given our “history of making huge mistakes vis-a-vis our foreign policy,” the American people should be a little more skeptical of the war machine narratives in real time (rather than, you know, treating any attempts at skepticism in real time as bad guy propaganda, and only permitting skepticism after the fact)

And yes, there are obvious differences to point out, sure. But if we can be cognizant of the differences, I think we should be cognizant of the similarities too (Halliburton lulz)

ousdahl wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 10:31 am I just think that, given our “history of making huge mistakes vis-a-vis our foreign policy,” the American people should be a little more skeptical of the war machine narratives in real time (rather than, you know, treating any attempts at skepticism in real time as bad guy propaganda, and only permitting skepticism after the fact)

And yes, there are obvious differences to point out, sure. But if we can be cognizant of the differences, I think we should be cognizant of the similarities too (Halliburton lulz)

But this is where you keep putting yourself in corners.

You have clearly fallen prey to a “war machine narrative” vis a vis Ukraine that is…Putin’s offered narrative (on the war he chose to make) from the very beginning.

I think you might be surprised to see, a couple years in now, just how closely aligned with this initial narrative you have become.

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/n ... raine-war/

I still think there’s some grey area between simply parroting Putin, and actual objective criticism for the US’s own militancy on a global stage.

I’ve avoided the former, but maybe there’s some inevitable overlap.

You refuse to even consider and continue to ridicule the latter, despite the US’s “history of making huge mistakes vis-a-vis our foreign policy” not exactly bolstering your position, and matter how michhawky it makes you sound.

Besides, I don’t think it should be my own fault for the US/NATO/western world validating Putin’s propaganda.

Putin: “there’s a Nazi problem in Ukraine!”

West: “nuh uh, no there ain’t, now watch us give a standing ovation to a Nazi from Ukraine! Someone get a photo op of Zelensky giving a fist pump!”