Kansas Crimson

BiggDick wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:29 am

pdub wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:18 am

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:14 am
You're wasting your time.

Yea.
I know.

I mean, only if you want to be.

pdub wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:28 am

BiggDick wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:25 am So I suppose it sucks for her, and for you as a supporter, and in a sense for America at large, that although she put that on her website, she still got meat necklaced by a nut job anyway.

Add 'with little to no choice' after supporter and remove the 'in a sense' and I'm in agreement with that, yes.

BiggDick wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:33 am

pdub wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:28 am

BiggDick wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:25 am So I suppose it sucks for her, and for you as a supporter, and in a sense for America at large, that although she put that on her website, she still got meat necklaced by a nut job anyway.

Add 'with little to no choice' after supporter and remove the 'in a sense' and I'm in agreement with that, yes.

well, that's the thing!

Maybe if America DID have more choices than "little to no", there wouldn't be an "in a sense" to it.

Free up the choices - both with actual Dem primaries, and also with actual 3rd party (actual working-class please?!) sorts of political parties, rather than being force fed the same two parties who at the end of the day are both controlled by the same moneyed interests, and I think we'd all feel a little better here.

pdub wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:31 am

BiggDick wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:29 am

pdub wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:18 am

Yea.
I know.

I mean, only if you want to be.

Well yea, I usually avoid this bored like the plague.
Feels like a day I should be active on it.

pdub wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:30 am

BiggDick wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:28 am to the point - Trump voters are either bigoted nut jobs themselves, or they're ok with the bigoted nut jobs.

And at the end of the day, I'm just not sure there's much of a difference.

I believe there is.
That's why two posters on this site are currently on a week vacation.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:30 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:22 am Best case now is what exactly - that his economic policies have disastrous-enough effects to make 2028 (or even the midterms?) about the "hardship" Elon promised?

hoping the country tanks hard.?!?

gee. i wonder why the good folks rejected you and your kind last night. it's a mystery.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:09 am fortunately. you have been wrong at almost every turn. here's to you keeping your streak alive.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:03 am

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:30 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:22 am Best case now is what exactly - that his economic policies have disastrous-enough effects to make 2028 (or even the midterms?) about the "hardship" Elon promised?

hoping the country tanks hard.?!?

gee. i wonder why the good folks rejected you and your kind last night. it's a mystery.

It wouldn't be accurate to say I hope the country tanks hard.

But from where I sit, I think we're in the "depression or mere recession" phase of things - and that failing to arrest this slide toward 90s-Russia-style kleptocracy (if we're not already there) is going to have permanent effect.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:31 am just because you don't like the outcome. does not mean America failed.

pdub wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:38 am

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:31 am just because you don't like the outcome. does not mean America failed.

It does to me.
Not to you ( obviously - you voted for Trump ).
Hence why I posted this thread.

pdub wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:38 am Say I was a KU fan and KU lost to Mizzou in the NCAA tournament.
I post a thread afterwards and say this NCAA tournament sucked.
You, as a Mizzou fan come on here and go, no it didn't.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:47 am

pdub wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:38 am Say I was a KU fan and KU lost to Mizzou in the NCAA tournament.
I post a thread afterwards and say this NCAA tournament sucked.
You, as a Mizzou fan come on here and go, no it didn't.

sorry. but that is not even close.

pdub wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 7:39 am https://kamalaharris.com/issues/

"Healthcare! This one's huge."
5th one down.

"climate change."
10th one down.

"reproductive rights"
11th one down.

"also things like immigration, weed, voter rights, Citizens United, any number of anything for which an actual vision was an opportunity to have popular appeal more so than some status quo."

Read up.

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 7:51 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 6:42 am

pdub wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 6:24 am I do…if combined with Biden realizing he wasn’t fit for a second term.

Would more time have helped break through the nonreality bubble? Maybe. I could also see an argument that a blitz campaign like Harris’s would have been the better strategy anyway.

I think ultimately this was about the specific timing of our exit from high inflation, combined with the capture of our information ecosystem (and the durability of some human-nature ugliness in our instincts).

Harris was one of the least popular choices in the Dem primary in 2020.

They ignored that. And it mattered.

Again, it had to be Harris at the point it became Harris. But, it should have never gotten that far. We spent several years pretending Biden was going to be good to go for a 2nd term. When in reality, he wasn't.

I think we'll be fine. We survived Trump's first term. We will survive his second term too.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:44 am
It's semantics, right? Because in a (grim) manner of speaking, America worked.