Kansas Crimson

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:21 pm

Feral wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:48 pm

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:07 pm

Feral wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:32 pm Did I mention last night how embarrassing our nation's response has been? It's shameful.

Any idea why we don't have masks here? And why they do have them in China?

Or why we don't ventilators to donate to Italy, but China does?

I mean...I know you're embarrassed and all that, but I'm curious about the target of that embarrassment.

I defer to the expert, Seema Verma, the Administrator of CMS, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. I'ts the agency that oversees Medicare, Medicaid, and the insurance markets. One of her first acts was to send a letter to the nation's governors, urging them to impose insurance premiums for Medicaid, and charge Medicaid recipients for emergency room visits. In other words, a "good" republican:

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:58 pm

Feral wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:48 pm

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:07 pm

Any idea why we don't have masks here? And why they do have them in China?

Or why we don't ventilators to donate to Italy, but China does?

I mean...I know you're embarrassed and all that, but I'm curious about the target of that embarrassment.

I defer to the expert, Seema Verma, the Administrator of CMS, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. I'ts the agency that oversees Medicare, Medicaid, and the insurance markets. One of her first acts was to send a letter to the nation's governors, urging them to impose insurance premiums for Medicaid, and charge Medicaid recipients for emergency room visits. In other words, a "good" republican:

lulz.

Somehow -- as is your wont -- you've tried to change the subject again.

WHY don't we have enough ventilators? Or masks? But ventilators in particular.

Or, frankly, any medical device?

Feral wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:59 pm

Is this a pop quiz? Nobody told me that was going to be on the test!

Geezer wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 4:46 pm How much does it pay to be a press conference background bobblehead?

Feral wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 6:00 pm

Feral wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:56 pm Trump lied about the pandemic again?

No way!

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 6:01 pm

Feral wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:59 pm

Is this a pop quiz? Nobody told me that was going to be on the test!

I just assumed, in your shame, that you might know something about the cause of your shame.

My mistake.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 6:39 pm So the workday ended with having to refuse a reservation someone tried to make to quarantine their daughter in one of our rooms.

Feral wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 6:33 pm

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 6:01 pm

Feral wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:59 pm

Is this a pop quiz? Nobody told me that was going to be on the test!

I just assumed, in your shame, that you might know something about the cause of your shame.

My mistake.

It's the entire lack of readiness, the apparent lack of any coherent policies or system to deal with a health crises like the pandemic. That certainly includes ventilators. But, like, (I think Geezer said), who expects for profit companies to sit on expensive but idle inventory like thousands of ventilators? And when so many items related to the social safety net, i.e., Medicare and Medicaid, are forced through a "cost benefit analysis" filter, is it any surprise that we don't have nearly enough ventilators, masks, sanitizer, etc., etc., etc., among so many other things?

It would have been impossible to have a cache of tests for this coronavirus sitting around. But the utter and complete and ongoing failure for someone, anyone in the WH, administration, CDC, NIH, etc. to take this problem by the balls at least a month ago and get it rolling is beyond gobsmacking. And as a result, the United States, home of "the best health care system in the world", (Not!), has not even reached first base yet in collecting the data that will give us any hope of flattening the curve and avoiding overwhelming our hospitals, ICUs, health care workers, first responders, the people who work in the nursing homes, etc., etc.

It's stunning to see.

Feral wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 6:33 pm

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 6:01 pm

Feral wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:59 pm

Is this a pop quiz? Nobody told me that was going to be on the test!

I just assumed, in your shame, that you might know something about the cause of your shame.

My mistake.

It's the entire lack of readiness, the apparent lack of any coherent policies or system to deal with a health crises like the pandemic. That certainly includes ventilators. But, like, (I think Geezer said), who expects for profit companies to sit on expensive but idle inventory like thousands of ventilators? And when so many items related to the social safety net, i.e., Medicare and Medicaid, are forced through a "cost benefit analysis" filter, is it any surprise that we don't have nearly enough ventilators, masks, sanitizer, etc., etc., etc., among so many other things?

It would have been impossible to have a cache of tests for this coronavirus sitting around. But the utter and complete and ongoing failure for someone, anyone in the WH, administration, CDC, NIH, etc. to take this problem by the balls at least a month ago and get it rolling is beyond gobsmacking. And as a result, the United States, home of "the best health care system in the world", (Not!), has not even reached first base yet in collecting the data that will give us any hope of flattening the curve and avoiding overwhelming our hospitals, ICUs, health care workers, first responders, the people who work in the nursing homes, etc., etc.

It's stunning to see.