Kansas Crimson

TDub wrote: ↑Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:45 pm
I just dont believe its a big coordinated conspiracy.

They're counting on it.

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:20 pm

Feral wrote: ↑Sat Apr 18, 2020 11:58 am

So, there’s no such thing as conspiracies, unless they are conspiracies that confirm my own preconceived notions and prejudices. Got it.

There's a large middle ground between a giant, worldwide conspiracy and realizing that 50 people didn't go to the same place at the same time without a few efforts to coordinate.

Feral wrote: ↑Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:47 pm

TDub wrote: ↑Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:45 pm
I just dont believe its a big coordinated conspiracy.

They're counting on it.

Now who's sounding like psych

TDub wrote: ↑Sat Apr 18, 2020 3:03 pm

Feral wrote: ↑Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:47 pm

TDub wrote: ↑Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:45 pm
I just dont believe its a big coordinated conspiracy.

They're counting on it.

Now who's sounding like psych

Unlike me, Psych doesn't bother to support anything he posts.

I resent the insult, fuck you.

Feral wrote: ↑Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:47 pm

TDub wrote: ↑Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:45 pm
I just dont believe its a big coordinated conspiracy.

They're counting on it.

It doesn't change anyone's opinion of anything if this really is some well funded, well organized conservative revolt. I am home and have been home and will be staying home other than for groceries or to walk around our neighborhood.

I am glad I don't live in one of the communities where these protests are happening. I am already stressed out enough. For those of you directly affected by these protests, stay safe and cross your fingers that one of these morons didn't pick up and put back the apple in the bin that you just put in your cart to take home.

Sad that some of these morons may infect someone who may otherwise have been able to avoid this virus. But such is the nature of self-centered people.

Feral wrote: ↑Sat Apr 18, 2020 3:06 pm

TDub wrote: ↑Sat Apr 18, 2020 3:03 pm

Feral wrote: ↑Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:47 pm

They're counting on it.

Now who's sounding like psych

Unlike me, Psych doesn't bother to support anything he posts.

I resent the insult, fuck you.

You mustve forgot you said the same thing to me like 5 posts ago.

Feral wrote: ↑Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:33 pm

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:02 pm Ah, yes, the ubiquitous, ever-reliable “anonymous sources”. Funny how they only count when they support your conspiracies.

And yet, you haven't done anything to support your fantasy that liberals and democrats are using the pandemic to destroy the economy and win the 2020 election, have you?

hypocrisy: noun: the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform;

Others organizing protests have been open about the involvement of outside donors.

Speaking on a YouTube program called “Freedom on Tap,” the Trump-allied economics commentator Stephen Moore said he was “working with a group in Wisconsin that wants to do a drive-in,” which he equated to the sit-ins of the civil rights era, only this time in protest of the restrictions put in place by Gov. Tony Evers, a Democrat.

Speaking of the planned Wisconsin rally, he said he had one big donor who had promised to pay the bail and legal fees of anyone who was arrested.

“So this is a great time, gentlemen and ladies, for civil disobedience,” Mr. Moore said. “We need to be the Rosa Parks here, and protest against these government injustices.”

[...]

Hypocrisy - condemning someone else for not doing what you are also not doing. Thanks for demonstrating.

TDub wrote: ↑Sat Apr 18, 2020 3:20 pm

Feral wrote: ↑Sat Apr 18, 2020 3:06 pm

TDub wrote: ↑Sat Apr 18, 2020 3:03 pm

Now who's sounding like psych

Unlike me, Psych doesn't bother to support anything he posts.

I resent the insult, fuck you.

You mustve forgot you said the same thing to me like 5 posts ago.

Apparently you don’t get it. Feral cannot ever be wrong, even when she is. And if she is, it’s because f- -ck you.

TDub wrote: ↑Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:45 pm

Feral wrote: ↑Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:33 pm

TDub wrote: ↑Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:42 pm

This is silly.

We don't expect much out of Psych, but you?

Maybe you need to get out more?

April 13, 2020 White House aides, outside groups launch effort to reopen economy

...The outside effort from conservative groups is expected to be led by Stephen Moore, a conservative at the Heritage Foundation who is close with White House economic officials; Jenny Beth Martin, co-founder of the Tea Party Patriots; Adam Brandon, president of FreedomWorks, a conservative advocacy organization; and Lisa Nelson, chief executive of the American Legislative Exchange Council, a conservative organization with ties to the Koch brothers, according to the three people, who were granted anonymity to reveal details of an effort that had not been publicly revealed...

Thousands of Americans backed by rightwing donors gear up for protests. Conservative activists to demand governors lift stay-home orders – and movement has been driven by wealthy conservative groups.

Thousands of people are preparing to attend protests across the US in the coming days, as a rightwing movement against stay-at-home orders, backed by wealthy conservative groups and promoted by Donald Trump, continues to take hold.

Conservative activists are demanding governors lift orders designed to stop the spread of the coronavirus, despite the recommendations of public health officials. Trump, who has clashed with Democratic governors over how soon to reopen the US economy, tweeted his support on Friday, in an unprecedented endorsement of civil disobedience by a sitting president.

...Yet while organisers claim the protests are grassroots- and people-driven, a closer look reveals a movement driven by traditional rightwing groups, including one funded by the family of Trump’s education secretary, Betsy DeVos.

The rallies have drawn comparisons to the Tea Party movement, which sprang into life in 2009 following the election of Barack Obama and was driven in part by Americans for Prosperity, a group founded by rightwing donors Charles and David Koch.

As with the Tea Party, the anti-stay-at-home movement has been promoted by a rightwing media eager for the economy to reopen, including Fox News which on Friday aired a segment on protests in Virginia, Michigan and Minnesota. Two minutes later, Trump tweeted to his 77.4 million followers the need to “liberate” those states.

The two groups behind the “operation gridlock” rally in Michigan on Wednesday have ties to the Republican party and the Trump administration.

The Michigan Freedom Fund, which said it was a co-host of the rally, has received more than $500,000 from the DeVos family, regular donors to rightwing groups.

The other host, the Michigan Conservative Coalition, was founded by Matt Maddock, now a Republican member of the state house of representatives. The MCC also operates under the name Michigan Trump Republicans, and in January held an event featuring several members of the Trump campaign.

[...]

I just dont believe its a big coordinated conspiracy.

See what I mean?

twocoach wrote: ↑Sat Apr 18, 2020 3:13 pm

Feral wrote: ↑Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:47 pm

TDub wrote: ↑Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:45 pm
I just dont believe its a big coordinated conspiracy.

They're counting on it.

It doesn't change anyone's opinion of anything if this really is some well funded, well organized conservative revolt. I am home and have been home and will be staying home other than for groceries or to walk around our neighborhood.

I am glad I don't live in one of the communities where these protests are happening. I am already stressed out enough. For those of you directly affected by these protests, stay safe and cross your fingers that one of these morons didn't pick up and put back the apple in the bin that you just put in your cart to take home.

Sad that some of these morons may infect someone who may otherwise have been able to avoid this virus. But such is the nature of self-centered people.

I'm not the least bit surprised that the protests are being promoted and funded in large part by well-established right wing groups. Psych and TDub expressed their doubts, and like I generally do, I presented the evidence for my argument. I even quoted Heritage Foundation "conservative economist" Stephen Moore, admitting as much.

Anyone who has been reading Psych's posts for any length of time is aware of his casual relationship with arcane concepts like "facts", and "reality". I've long given TDub much more credit, and have learned things from him, despite that we often disagree.

Fox News including contact information for people who want to join the protests is merely a coincidence, because they do that for Black Lives Matter and ANTIFA no doubt, too. Right?

I dont doubt that there was some level or coordination and support from right wing groups. I dont believe it was any more conspiratous (its not a word but maybe it should be) than many other things, including rallies and protests

A national protest by its very nature has to be coordinated. This is a feature of our system/rights, not a bug.

No Way!

Why does Trump want to kill off his voter base?

con·spir·a·cy (kən-spîr′ə-sē)
n. pl. con·spir·a·cies
1. An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act.

Yeah, who needs Fauci?

(Can't wait to learn from one of Trump's apologists here why something this dum, "Fire Fauci!", is the democrats fault.)

Is Brazil a third world country, or are we?

Those safe rural areas--really all that safe?

Rural Randolph County has one of the highest COVID-19 infection rates in Illinois.

Here’s what happened:

https://thesouthern.com/news/local/rura ... 369e6.html

Feral wrote: ↑Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:38 pm

There's something very familiar about these guys, they remind me of someone....no, no, don't tell me I'll get it....












....Rosa Parks, they remind me a lot of Rosa Parks.....very....very....Parksish.